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V. wrote: Now, leave this place or die!
That bit was the landlady of the pub I drank in when I was 17 at closing time.
If you want to know what she looked like then google klondyke kate, although viewer discretion should be applied (SFW BTW).
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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This[^] I found in the news. I think 'goto fail' is the clearst and most understandable code line I have seen in a while.
That reminds me to use goto in a small loop where it can't possibly cause any harm. Ths will give some code Nazi a heart attack and I will have an hour of fun while he tries to find any reason at all why it must be removed. 
Or perhaps I will use ' if(SomeBool == true)' a few times for the same effect. 
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.
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One of those damned if it fails and damned if it succeeds lines of code. In this case, failure isn't just an option; it's mandatory.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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What level do you need to be able to use goto in code?
Guess I'm not worthy.
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Somehow I would not think that you spend hours debating over cosmetic code changes which make no difference at all.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.
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In any language other than Basic I've never used a goto statement.
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You know what it's like, you're there ... it might be because it's the "right day", it might be that you were looking for something specific, it might be because OriginalGriff included the link in some witty repartee (ok I'm stretching here), but...
We've all done it... I hit the "Random" link
It was only amusing until I did the old mouse-hover  then it was PMSL
http://xkcd.com/533/[^]
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What's this[^]?
Did not spend any time sneaking into it, yet. But it seems like there is something in the making, wanna tell us what this something is?
The scariest moment is always just before the Start - Stephen King
Die Frauen warten auf die Liebe, und die Männer warten auf die Frauen - Wolf Wondratschek
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discovered something interesting you have !
'g'
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Interesting things there are. API there is not, yet.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: API there is not, yet.
In the task list, I've seen it.
The scariest moment is always just before the Start - Stephen King
Die Frauen warten auf die Liebe, und die Männer warten auf die Frauen - Wolf Wondratschek
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I wouldn't get too excited. I offered to help (Marc Clifton ???) when he started asking API questions and revealed he was doing a reccie for one. That was 2010.
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So, we need to offer help again.
@Pete-OHanlon I'm on vacation during June, and apart painting the walls of my from there is nothing set up,yet - Let me know if you got something you want to outsource to Switzerland.
The scariest moment is always just before the Start - Stephen King
Die Frauen warten auf die Liebe, und die Männer warten auf die Frauen - Wolf Wondratschek
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Marco Bertschi wrote: to outsource to Switzerland.
This has been getting near illegal, lately 
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Rage wrote: This has been getting near illegal, lately
Talking about the latest vote we had here, eh?
That's gonna be a borderline political discussion, but off we go:
We haven't decided against immigration, and we still take people who are protected by human rights - It doesn't change anything about human rights being respected in Switzerland.
The second thing is that we voted to have quotas for people who come to work in Switzerland, instead of the previous model where anyone who got a job contract was able to immigrate to Switzerland. BUT: The quotas are adjusted once every quarter of a year, to fit the economic needs, so it is basically something overly bureaucratic to hold on with the previous status quo - Nothing changes, except that we *theoretically* are able to close our borders for immigrants. I don't really see a problem with the 2nd point, since the US have a far more restrictive model where companies even need to pay [about 100'000 $ a year, IIRC] per contract they make with someone from abroad.
Third point: I think you don't really need to take your parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters and so on with you if you want to work in Switzerland, Kids & Wife should be enough.
The scariest moment is always just before the Start - Stephen King
Die Frauen warten auf die Liebe, und die Männer warten auf die Frauen - Wolf Wondratschek
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No, that was not my point at all, I meant all the fuss going lately in France about people "outsourcing" their money to Switzerland.
About the vote limiting immigration, I think it was necessary and see no harm. If you look at the figures, Switzerland has been letting more than ten times the people that was planned and could be reasonably handled in the last 15 years, so I understand there definitely was a need of regulation...
This was sold in the media as if people living in France and working in Switzerland had to be afraid of loosing their job, but they are not even concerned by the law that has been passed, or that Switzerland had turned xenophobic overnight, which I kind of doubt . But I guess it gave journalists a few good headlines...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Rage wrote: No, that was not my point at all, I meant all the fuss going lately in France about people "outsourcing" their money to Switzerland.
Oh. That's an old one, I guess 
Rage wrote: But I guess it gave journalists a few good headlines...
It's always the same fuss going on about immigration decisions 
We had demos by people who are shouting "We are the 49.7%" - Some people never get a realistic view for the things, and most of them are University students who got their parents' money shoven up the a** and never ever had to do actual work. One of them even stated to me that "We wouldn't have that many criminals from abroad if we gave them more money". I'm pretty sure that will work
/rant over
The scariest moment is always just before the Start - Stephen King
Die Frauen warten auf die Liebe, und die Männer warten auf die Frauen - Wolf Wondratschek
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Yep, I'm not getting too excited either. There are some other things that need to be in place before we get an API. I'm working on getting those sorted out first.
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Errr... You are not suppose to see that.
Now someone has to do something to you.
BTW: Interesting discovery!
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Rutvik Dave wrote: Now someone has to do something to you.
Hamster Nr.007 is on his way.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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A man takes his place in the theater, but his seat is too far from the stage.
He whispers to the usher, "This is a mystery, and I have to watch a mystery close up. Get me a better seat, and I'll give you a handsome tip." The usher moves him into the second row, and the man hands the usher a quarter.
The usher looks at the quarter, leans over and whispers, "The wife did it."
/ravi
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I recently graduated with a BS in Information Technology - Network Security emphasis, but I have always enjoyed the courses I took in software development far more than any infrastructure or hardware courses. I would like to enter the industry as an entry level developer but I'm having a hard time since I have little or no commercial experience. Therefore I wonder if anyone in the Code Project community knew of a way I could work on an actual project to gain some skills that I could put on a resume. My current work situation doesn't really allow me to physically be available but I could easily do telecommute type work. Any advice on building some skills and viable experience to put on a resume would be helpful.
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bradfortner wrote: Any advice on building some skills and viable experience to put on a resume would be helpful.
- Open Source Projects of interest to you
- Volunteer to write some software for an NGO of your choice
You are in the same position we have all found ourselves in after being graduated with a Bachelors Degree.
When I went to university, long before there was anything like an IT degree, we had a saying in the Mathematics Department.
Q - What can you do with a Bachelors in Mathematics.
A - Drive a truck.
It took me 8 months of serious looking before I finally got a job in IT. Many can tell a similar story.
Don't get discouraged. It takes a long time to get your first IT job.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Thank you for the advice, I will have to look into different open source projects and see what I feel comfortable trying. Unfortunately I have found that schoolwork does not equal real world 90% of the time. I've been in several courses that cover decent material but they never seem to get into things like deployment / .dll's / or getting involved with printing or formatting other than on screen.
I will definitely start looking into some open source projects though.
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I think Jimmy Ropes gave you excellent advice, and I'd like to add to his thoughtful words the idea that you don't necessarily need a job, or internship, in the formal sense, to get busy developing the habit of self-motivated technical study, and practice, in programming.
And, I do not think you'll find a better resource on this planet than ... drum-roll ... CodeProject.
Get Visual Studio, choose your weapon (.NET language), and get started. Study selected articles here that interest you; choose projects to develop yourself that will stretch your mind, like writing a small word-processor. Develop a web-site. Create a program that interacts with Excel via Office Automation and does something interesting.
"Work out" by setting yourself problems in Object Oriented modeling of real-world hierarchies, and inheritance, that require you to become familiar with working with Virtual and Abstract Classes, Interfaces. As you reach plateaus, or have technical problems you need help with: makes use of CodeProject's Technical forums and QA to ask questions.
Deeply explore the features of an IDE like Visual Studio to get a practical deep "feel for" debugging and error-handling.
Prepare yourself to hit the ground running when you do get your first job as a developer by training your mind to engage in periods of intensely concentrated study to achieve mastery of technical areas.
Most likely, your first job, and subsequent ones, will require you to rapidly "come up to speed" on complex existing code. Aptitude for that can be developed in, imho, much the same way as skill in a martial art, or sport.
"If not you: who ? If not now: when ?" ... Rebbi Hillel, 1st. Century C.E. ...
“The best hope is that one of these days the Ground will get disgusted enough just to walk away ~ leaving people with nothing more to stand ON than what they have so bloody well stood FOR up to now.” Kenneth Patchen, Poet
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