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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Of course I'm going to be "in a camp all my own"
I usually am too.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: do I have to explain why a join on a look-up table is slower?
Perhaps you could explain how it would implement the automatic translation/look-up without performing a JOIN behind the scenes?
Jeremy Falcon wrote: you know what I meant
You appeared to not know what I meant.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: do you really like to argue
No, but I want to be sure talking about the same thing. I think we are now.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Perhaps you could explain how it would implement the automatic translation/look-up without performing a JOIN behind the scenes?
There is no look-up with an ENUM data type. It's just a data type. Instead of using a number with no inherit value, with no referential data checking for a rogue number, etc. you can use strings. Not only is there no look-up, which is fast, this has so many advantages with automatic data checking / integrity (even in the case of a tri-state Boolean) it's unreal.
PIEBALDconsult wrote: You appeared to not know what I meant.
I did. And like I said, ENUM types fall short on variable length rows of values / types / whatever you want call them. And if the look-up needs to be re-used they fall short. But for a one-time small item, such as tri-state Boolean they're awesome.
PIEBALDconsult wrote: I think we are now.
I've always been talking about this yo.
Jeremy Falcon
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Numbers, definitely numbers. And not just any numbers but enumerated numbers 
And preferrably even listed in a look up table and enforced with constraints.
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I work in an open plan office, I'm 3 down a row of desks from the window.
Is it fair that I blame the bloke who sits closest to the window for the weather outside it?
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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What are you going to do if you get cold at the office?
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I can't see why not, I've blamed someone I work with, that it is his fault it began raining at lunchtime because he went swimming 
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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yes, if he doesn't like it he can swop with you
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Using MSVC 12/VS2013.
Why? Why not?
So far I have built Python 3.4.1 successfully, and I am currently working on building Python 2.7.8.
I will upload these builds and post a link here if people want me to.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: So far I have built Python 3.4.1 successfully, and I am currently working on building Python 2.7.8.
So you regress. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Some things only work on Python 2.x, like Mercurial.
I have both built now, and they both work perfectly.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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I am building CPython.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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What to do if you are sleepy at office?
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Post a new message at the Lounge.
THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?!
-- C++ FQA Lite
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At office 3 coming soon eh?
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At office 3 coming soon Laugh | Laugh | Laugh | Laugh | Laugh | Laugh | Laugh | eh?
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Stop reading posts like this!
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I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka.
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a) close door - take a power nap.
or
b) go up to cabin - take a power nap.
or
c) go outside walk round the plant and get some fresh sea air.
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Paint blue circles on your eyelids and try not to snore...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Mine are green 
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That's an implementation detail - I'm the ideas man.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Dale: [narration] Steve is also an ideas man. That's why Dad calls him the Ideas Man. He has lots of ideas.
Steve: It's a motorcycle helmet with a built-in brake light.
Darryl: [shaking his head] You are an ideas man, Steve.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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What, you mean like this one[^]? 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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On my last job I used to work with a few people that were very helpful in such cases. Mainly project managers - you just need a quick chat with them and that made your blood pressure so high you weren't sleepy anymore 
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"My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."
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