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Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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...and you never went for any legal action? Sexual harassment is a crime, unless you like it! -_-
Favourite line: Throw me to them wolves and close the gate up. I am afraid of what will happen to them wolves - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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I wouldn't call it harassment. I couldn't consider it that unless I had at least mentioned it to him, and then he kept it up.
I really don't agree with "subtle" harassment people try to pull of just because they are passive/scared. The only thing that would make that different is if it were blatant sexual advances without warrant. Reporting something as a harassment crime is serious business IMO.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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Maybe it is time for a raise...
I'll get my coat.
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loctrice wrote: not reacting violently
Why not?
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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I've no moral problem with hand to hand combat. It was pretty natural when I was a kid (i.e. if you mouthed off at recess you got punched).
The problem is that you get to go to jail after these days. People don't generally like to remain friends afterwords either, which is another thing that has changed over the years.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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Interesting. Aren't you a boxer? So how do you deal with boxers touching you?
Maybe you need to invite your boss to have a boxing match with you.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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I do MMA, which involves some boxing. I'm more of a Thai guy.
I answered this above, but :
1 - I'm allowed to be violent with them when they touch me
2 - This, for some reason, doesn't seem the same to me as "casual" touching.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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Next time just weird him out. Say something like "Oh god that feels soooo good!".
I bet he won't do it again! 
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In the UK there is a campaing to teach The Underwear Rule[^] - it's to teach kids what it's not permitted for anyone to touch without permission first, without talking about sex or similar confusing (for 5 year olds and such like) matters.
I'd expect to be punched or prosecuted if I touched any work colleague in The Underware Zone (male or female) - it's almost certain to be seen as sexual assault at worse.
Tell him. Doesn't matter if it's not intended "that way" - it's still unacceptable. If he doesn't listen and does it again, take it upwards. His boss and / or police - your choice.
I wouldn't accept it, and I wouldn't expect anyone in the company I worked for to either.
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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Thanks for the talk. I agree completely with everything you said here.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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I've read this list with interest, noting the attempts at "understanding" on your part. I just have one question - are you the only guy he gets touchy with? Having asked that, a hand on the shoulder, pat on the back, etc. I would not sweat, but a smack on the rear? Yeah, that's way, way over the line, and he would have passed my "nope, that's enemy action" line.
The very fact that you are uncomfortable with the situation... and that you are making excuses for not holding him accountable is the exact reason why this sort of crap needs to stop. It's just not professional.
It's your call where your limit is. What I would do at a minimum is start a log and document every incident. At some point, he is going to go too far, and you are going to say something. Since he's past my "enemy action" line, I suspect dark motives. Arm yourself with documentation.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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In many businesses that would constitute sexual harassment; you should sue, or just beat his brains out.
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Quote: just beat his brains out
Go with that option, it's quicker
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He's quite a big chap, so maybe you should do some boxing training, or something, before having a go.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Next time you're alone with him:
"Did I ever tell you about the place I used to work? The boss was a bit 'hands on' if you know what I mean - just very tactile, I guess, but he just went too far, one day....
I just heard he was finally out of hospital..."
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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One of the most read stories on the BBC (see story below) is "Brady and Rose among new life peers".
I immediately thought Ian and West, which would have been a slight shift in policy, although probably no more evil than the political party donors that normally get the gig.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Glad I'm not the only one.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Book cover chosen by people who don't seem to have read the book[^]
Quote: A spokeswoman for Penguin stressed that the new edition of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was "intended for an adult audience"
How can you have a new edition of a Roald Dahl book, or any book for that matter, "intended for an adult audience"? Surely it's the same fecking words.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Umm don't really get the whole change the cover for a different readership thing. I have to admit the more adult cover tends to look '70s grubby rain coat brigade (if you get my drift!) 
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Was just about to post about this. The cover is pretty creepy and according to Penguin the picture isn't even meant to represent the main female antagonists.  
The "Lolita" comparison is interesting, the penguin cover to that is much more subdued, which is ironic as the book as you'd expect, really isn't. Though the cover being "misleading" should only mean that illiterate perverts will be out of pocket, so not necessarily a bad thing.
First genuine WTF OTD.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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Yes, but she's just trying to drum up work for her relative! 
Quote: Joanne Harris tweeted: ... "Seriously, Penguin Books. Why not just get Rolf Harris to design the next one?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I read her name as Joanne Harris-Tweed. Must be getting a bit DD in my old age.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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Well, if a kid reads it, they might see themself in one of the not-so-nice child characters and feel bad. That is no longer allowed.
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