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Tim Carmichael wrote: I detest having 15 or more check out stations with only 1 or 2 open and a line of people at each one.
That doesn't happen at the 1 or 2 that I shop at. 
Self-checkout is great; unless you have a lot of stuff.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: Perhaps the location makes a difference.
All I can say is that, in the south at least, more often than not they've gone through crap ringers. I've found most of the associates aren't helpful and have very little knowledge of what is going on with the store. I used to work at Walmart as a kid before getting into tech for living, and back in the day Sam Walton was known for going to stores and letting go of unhelpful associates on the spot. Those days are gone.
But if your Walmarts are nirvana, cherish them man. Cherish them like the jewels they are.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: and back in the day Sam Walton was known for going to stores and letting go of unhelpful associates on the spot.
I see. I'm originally from California and didn't have Walmart until later in life. It's always been mostly the same for me. Rarely are there helpful associates but that is my expectation so I'm not let down. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I think you should've started thinking before you bought an Apple product 
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Chris Maunder wrote: involve more and more hidden UI cues
What like having to move the mouse the the top right/left hand corner of the screen to make some option appear. I don't think it is just Apple!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Microsoft has been suitably skewered for Windows 8, and they did well to back down, admit they messed up, and rework a bunch of their stuff.
I give them cred for that.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I've spent years rebutting any suggestion to buy an Apple from the other half. Her professional cohort all own them. Now she wins an iPad air for renewing her professional membership. I was impressed by how easy it was to get it up and running. Yes I did spend time taking the packaging apart looking for the quick start instructions.
Now I can't find how to get to CP pages accessed by drop-down menus e.g Help>Bugs and Suggestions.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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If the device is iOS 9, menus don't work.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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That's helpful.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Something got changed which broke all web menus. At least MS tries to stay compatible. Apple seems to break things for the sake of breaking them.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Chris, face it - you're getting older. This phenomenon started years ago in the video game market, and then exploded with the advent of smartphones. "UX" designers are creating modes of interaction that 'tweens and twentysomethings seem to inherently understand from prior exposure, but anyone older hasn't a clue how to use. The move toward the 'modern' UI, with flat monochrome graphics and little or no guiding text, is symptomatic. A lot of smartphone apps require dexterity that older folks can't achieve, due to small icons and close positioning. I've even seen desktop apps that call for triple-clicks  to perform certain actions.
The end result will be a divide between those that can speak to the machines, and those that cannot. Those that cannot, the aged and the poor, will therefore not be full participants in the society being created.
Software Zen: delete this;
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To quote a tropism, kill it with fire.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I don't think dexterity equates to discoverability. I also think that all those old people (ie over 35's  ) using new products probably have more patience than the younger generations.
We had to fight to understand how to use that old IBM AIX box!
cheers
Chris Maunder
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You aren't the only one who has been noticing the degradation in UI.
Interesting article discussing the UI designs:
How Apple Is Giving Design A Bad Name[^]
My experience has been that it's getting more like a point-and-tap adventure game, and less like a productivity tool every release. The flat UI fad is particularly horrible for being able to tell what are active elements.
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Excellent article. Thank you.
I especially liked
Quote: Apple, you used to be the leader. Why are you now so self-absorbed? Worse, why does Google follow all your worst examples?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Moshe Katz wrote: Why are you sending them an old version
/Points at Google and glares
cheers
Chris Maunder
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zinnias in space,
their grace in the shadow of
clandestine arms' race
[^]
«Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.» Benjamin Franklin
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Ever since I converted my Dell desktop to UEFI boot, I have been fiddling with the BIOS settings to see how I can speed up my boot time. For the purposes of this discussion, I define "boot time" as the time lapse between pressing the power button and the log-in screen appearing.
My apologies for a shameless plug: You can read more about my UEFI exploits in this CP article: (Take careful note of the warnings in this article!)
Preparing a Drive for UEFI Boot[^]
UEFI is supposed to boot faster than legacy boot, but I was disappointed because my boot time hovered around 38 seconds. That was until I noticed in my BIOS that I had the Legacy Boot ROMs enabled. There was a note from Dell that enabling these ROMs will cause them to load at boot time. This unnecessary load must take a few seconds, because when I disabled the legacy ROMs, the boot time dropped to 19 seconds. Wow! I have never had a machine boot this fast. This setup is really smoking. By the way: My Dell is a 64 bit machine with a 3.41GHz processor and DDR4 memory, running Windows 10 Pro.
Note that this comment applies to Dell desktops. I do not know if legacy ROMs can be disabled in other machines.
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Is your system drive an SSD? Mine is and my year old system (Gigabyte Brix i7, 16G RAM, 500GB SSD, Win7) boots in about 5-7 seconds.
/ravi
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Yes, I have a Samsung SSD. Does your system boot in 5-7 seconds from the moment you press the power button?
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Well, I have 32GB of memory. I wonder if the BIOS is doing some kind of memory check at boot time, that may take a few seconds. However, there is no way I am removing memory from my machine, just to speed up the boot process!
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Perhaps it's doing an exhaustive RAM test? If my foggy memory (no pun intended) serves me right, I think there's an option that toggles between a cursory and full RAM check. I think it used to be called "Quick Boot".
/ravi
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