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Speaking of Darwin Awards, Here's another contestant[^]! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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NON-HYPHENATED
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Er ... sorry to pop your bubble and all that but it's UNHYPHENATED and therefore thoroughly unironic!
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Yup. I can point out, however, chaos:
A liquid can be flammable - which is conceivable.
A liquid can be inflammable - which is inconceivable.
Probably other lurking about in the language, but these to are a hot issue.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Not only that, but flammable and inflammable mean the same thing! 
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Yes, grasshopper! Imagine the fun about arguing whether something was flammable or inflammable!
Here's some more fun-with-English (and you don't even have to speak real English like we 'mericuns do to git it.).
How do you pronounce: 'WIND' ?
How about 'READ', 'POLISH' . . . I once had several pages of these beauties.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: How do you pronounce: 'WIND' ?
I don't, I just produce it. 
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W∴ Balboos wrote: How do you pronounce: 'WIND' ?
Correctly according to the context in which I find it. How about you? English spelling is not phonetic. Never has been. What's your point?
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9082365 wrote: according to the context in which I find it.
I observe that you've answered your own question about 'what's my point'.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Don't wind him up; we don't need him blowing wind at us.
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There will be a thought for the day - the inevitable is inevitably inevitable.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Beh. That's kids' stuff![^]
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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+One*
However one pronounces that (bone, gone, . . .)
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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OriginalGriff wrote: flammable and inflammable mean the same thing!
So irregardless of how you say it, it means the same thing? 
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Well, MS word thinks both are okay, so that makes you wrong.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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When did you start trusting anything Microsoft said?
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Only when it's convenient.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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BTW, IE thinks "unhyphenated" is spelled wrong when you type this string into google - "non-hyphenated or unhyphenated", but when you use it on its own, it doesn't.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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"non-hyphenated or unhyphenated" isn't flagged up as misspelled by Chrome,
But "nonhyphenated" is, and "unhyphenated" is flagged up as a grammatical error, so "non hyphenated" is suggested instead!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: "non-hyphenated or unhyphenated" isn't flagged up as misspelled by Chrome,
But "nonhyphenated" is, and "unhyphenated" is flagged up as a grammatical error, so "non hyphenated" is suggested instead!
And along with all of this grammar, speeling and the rest which no one can decide upon....
Does anyone really know what time it is?
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Nah, you can put "non-" in front of any adjective you like, to negate it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: any adjective
Really? Sadly that would appear to be not accurate, or inaccurate if you prefer, as no respectable dictionary in existence includes non-accurate. And I certainly hope that you wouldn't think non-nonplussed or non-nonfictional, acceptable.
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But every dictionary does include the negation tag "non-", which can be placed before any adjective to negate it.
Or are you suggesting that they waste their time adding virtually the same entry for every single adjective in the language?
While they're at it, they can also add "can be used sarcastically" for just about every adjective and adverb, and "is not connected etymologically to the Klingon language" to each and every word in the dictionary.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Or are you suggesting that they waste their time adding virtually the same entry for every single adjective in the language?
I'm not suggesting anything. I'm telling you as a fact that the most respected dictionaries do already list those considered standard, usually without definition for the reasons you cite, but they list them. The same is true of in's and un's and im's and any other negation. A dictionary which leaves words out simply on the basis of inconvenience is a pretty poor dictionary.
Mark_Wallace wrote: which can be placed before any adjective to negate it
In theory you can place any prefix in front of any word and any suffix behind it and pile them up on top of each other to your heart's content to boot. That doesn't mean that you should. And, more importantly, it doesn't mean, in practice, people do. If a 'non' construction is not in general usage, especially after centuries of it being available, then it is entirely reasonable to to describe it as, at the very least, questionable or improper, if not simply wrong! This is one of those occasions where it is every important to distinguish between 'can' and 'may'!
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9082365 wrote: The same is true of in's and un's and im's and any other negation.
No, because they are prefixes, and have to follow rules.
"Non-" is not a prefix, it is a negation tag, so you can essentially use it to negate any damned thing you like.
A word to the wise: it's really best not to argue with me about the English language.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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