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Perfect excuse to buy and eat and relish chocolate chip cookies.
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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I'm offshore at the moment, so pretty restricted to what I can get my hands on, I took the CC ones out with me.
I've been cutting back my biscuit intake and have been staring at an unopened packet of vanilla creams on my desk for 8 days now and it is absolute torture!
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Good luck. May be these links will keep you motivated: 1[^] and 2[^]
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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I was behind a car with the plate ALG0121 -- I wonder whether or not someone has the plate ALG0160 and doesn't know what it means. 
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Erm...what does it mean?
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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Whippersnapper - have a little history ALGOL[^]
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I searched for alogolgo and found something totally different. 
Wiki: originally developed in the mid-1950s
Mid 1950s, when my parents were born.
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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My parents weren't even born until 10 years later, but I know of ALGOL 60 nonetheless 
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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That's why computer science isn't a real science. People don't learn history.
Imagine if nobody in physics had heard of Newton.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Newton who?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I simply have to assume you're joking ??? 
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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You assume correctly! 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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lw@zi wrote: Mid 1950s, when my parents were born.
When my parents were married...
Show what a diverse bunch we are.
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Tim Carmichael wrote: When my parents were married...
Mine too; going to their 60th anniversary party later this year. ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
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A bit about networking?
Well, obviously I should as it was required of me today, but in general...
My assignment was simple enough, we wanted to use RabbitMQ and I was the one who should get it to work. No problem, I installed Erlang and RabbitMQ, read some tutorials, wrote some client C# code, and I was able to sent to, and receive from, the RabbitMQ queue.
Now here's the thing, my team lead then asked me what protocol did it use, should we use SSL/TLS, and how do we set it up?
The hell should I know! I write code, I don't configure servers, create certificates, have them signed, etc.
Or should I know? Common knowledge, or stuff left to sysadmins?
I'm interested in opinions.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Or should I know? Common knowledge, or stuff left to sysadmins?
If I need to know something, I learn it, otherwise I leave it to the experts.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: If I need to know something, I learn it, otherwise I leave it to the experts.
You do realise that that's what all the experts say too?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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That's the trouble with all you young whippersnappers with your fancy black box components! In my day if you wanted to set up a network messager you had to do everything yourself including poking packets down the cable with a sharpened stick! Well, ok, not quite. But I do think that some of the modern packages obscure what's going on just a little too much. It certainly can't hurt to know a little something about protocols and SSL and all that nuts and bolts stuff if only to spot when the sysadmin has finally cracked and started storing servers in his "Tardis"!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Agreed to a certain degree 
I know what's going on (basically encrypted or plain text communication), but I can't set it up. For the code it matters little though, just a little extra configuration.
It's the same with LINQ to SQL/Entities, some programmers just don't understand that they're really talking to a database and that it has certain implications, after all "it's just C#, right?" 
We have a few sysadmins in the company and a few more people who know a thing or two about networks.
If something doesn't work I go to them for help 
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9082365 wrote: In my day if you wanted to set up a network messager you had to do everything yourself including poking packets down the cable with a sharpened stick!
Yes, and while doing so make sure the Token-Ring network token doesn't drop out.
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Sander Rossel wrote: should I know?
Probably not required, as it has nothing to do with your part of the problem, but it sounds like you are about to get an introduction anyway! More knowledge is a cool thing! Have fun with it! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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kmoorevs wrote: but it sounds like you are about to get an introduction anyway
Not really, I can't really figure it all out AND stay within budget. Everything is running on one server, so TLS isn't a requirement anyway 
I had my introduction a few weeks ago with a WCF SOAP service. Apparently SOAP requires TLS (and far worse, XML!)
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SOAP shudder
Had to deal with it in iOS environment. Talk about pushing the envelope... 
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Ri_ wrote: SOAP shudder
+1
Eric
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Apparently SOAP requires TLS (and far worse, XML!)
SOAP does not require TLS, though it is usually a good idea to use it and many applications require it. There are far worse things to deal with than XML (like ASN.1) and besides, you usually are usually not directly dealing directly with the XML but letting a framework marshall between your business objects and XML, though in the case of WCF, the framework abstraction may be more complicated than the XML.
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