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By ZiffDavisResearch.com. Fascinating!
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Next clue please.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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How many letters?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: How many letters?
hundreds, thousands, millions .... 
that's why it's called spam
Sin tack ear lol
Pressing the "Any" key may be continuate
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It was posted there.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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There used to be a time when I liked ZiffDavis, as in the good old days of ZDTV! The Screen Savers - Wikipedia[^]
It's true! In '98 I was just getting back into computing/programming after a decade away from school and had gotten my first Windows PC with VS6! Everything was new and exciting back then! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Okay, one part for my supercharger project came in the mail yesterday. Not quite a flood, but, exciting nonetheless.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Small part, or big mailbox? 
Ignore me, I'm commiserating - Canada Post won't even put something as small as a CD in my mailbox and makes me drive a few miles to go pick up packages that would clearly fit in it (and that's my first world problem of the day)...
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dandy72 wrote: Canada ... first world
Ummm... what? ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
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he's building a MadMax car
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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this big good right hahaha
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Sometimes being dyslexic is so interesting!
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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Okay, so I'm working with a team that's (relatively) young and like to do things "the right way". This means Agile (naturally!), unit tests written up front, acceptance tests (Gherkin) too..
The problem is that very little gets delivered. In the last two week sprint, 160 points were promised but only 40 delivered. Same in the previous sprint. There's a bit of worry as they're working on a mission critical project that needs to be delivered in a couple of months.
Personally, I think they're missing one major point mentioned in the Agile manifesto, in that..
We are uncovering better ways of developing software by doing it and helping others do it.
Through this work we have come to value:
Individuals and interactions over processes and tools
Working software over comprehensive documentation
Customer collaboration over contract negotiation
Responding to change over following a plan
That is, while there is value in the items on the right, we value the items on the left more.
We're ending up with the situation that writing tests and refactoring is taking the bulk of the time. Things are being (IMO) over-tested and (also IMO) and there's an over-reliance on unit/acceptance testing to pick up all defects - real bugs are being missed and picked up at the point of actual system testing (or even worse, demo).
On top of that, we've got developers going in changing working code simply because they think it should be done differently (in their opinion, better). And, if there's a complex way to write simple code you can bet this team will find it..
Has anyone else run into this? What was done to get the team focused on the important deliverables? I would like to understand how we can get away from delivering tests but very little product every two weeks.. 
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Simple: toss out agile and do it properly. Oh, and fire all the script-kiddies and get some real coders in. 
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Hire some goons to have a talk with the worst offender every week?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: Hire some goons to have a talk with the worst offender every week?
I think we've got that.. trouble is that the goons promote the guy every time 
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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What rank has he reached by now? Imperial commander of the order of the tweaked byte, fourth class?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Agile - an MBA's idea of how programming should be done.
And a + for you.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Agile - an MBA's idea of how programming should be done.
It's too bad it has descended into that. I often talk about he _heart_ of Agile as it is defined by one of the two original "creators" of the Agile methodology in the following book:
Scrum: The Art of Doing Twice the Work in Half the Time[^]
It's really a great read and if you were to read it I believe you'd find, as I did, that Agile is a set of processes pulled together into a methodology that explains how real work is done.
But, alas, it is described in so many places so poorly.
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Another "Alas":
Writing a book, declaring a manifesto, and selling a bill of goods will not fix something that's innately broken.
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There's a process to everything.
Many people (developers) have no real process.
THey just write code. Just writing code is terrible.
The book attempts to explain a process that a real person(s) can use to create a product, not just code.
Those of us, like yourself, who have a process that actually creates valuable products have no need of such a thing and consider the writers of such processes as snake oil salesmen (and many are).
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raddevus wrote: THey just write code. Just writing code is terrible.
Just because they say so?
raddevus wrote: The book attempts to explain a process that a real person(s) can use to create a product, not just code.
Well - real programmers, by this definition, are simply not real people. I can go with that because real programmers are better than real people!
Apparently, by Agile standards, us real programmer earn our living by continuously doing the impossible. Mmmmmmm. Maybe.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Just because they say so?
No, not just because Agile says so. I'm saying that code without a purpose isn't valuable to a company or a project. Developers often get stuck on code, but if the code isn't useful or usable the product suffers. Often, it is because developers are focused on other things like some beautiful algorithm.
I like software that works and that is really the true goal of a real Agile project.
Even this process that the OP has described isn't actually Agile, because they are missing a prime ingredient: product owner / visionary. Alas.
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