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I'm going through this as well. I just updated to a reimaged Win10 using apps that run on an existing D: drive from Vista. I think it means that Win10 does not yet have the C runtime libraries installed on the system disk.
I'll know better in a day or two...
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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To use a car on the road in the UK, you must have:
0) A valid licence to drive.
1) A valid MOT (if your vehicle is over three years old). This is renewed annually and is issued after fairly through safety testing.
2) Insurance. 3rd party minimum, but it's hard to find less than Fully Comprehensive these days.
3) Road Tax: this is only issued when you are insured and MOTed.
The last one is interesting (honest) - it's on a specific vehicle, but also a specific owner: if you sell the car, it doesn't transfer to the new owner, and you get a refund of unused complete months (less a handling charge judging by the amount I got back). The new owner must tax the vehicle (for the beginning of the current month) before he can use it on the road. (So the thieves at the DVLA get paid twice for the same month each time a vehicle is sold.)
When you buy a car, you are given a small portion the the existing "log book" - the V5C/3 in DVLA speak - which contains a document reference number that you need to tax it. That's simple: phone them and an automated system wants the 12 digit reference number. Except the V5C/3 I got only has an 11 digit number and the phone system won't take it. OK. Try the internet. No dice, it wants 12 digits as well.
So I assume it's an older style document, and they haven't figured it out yet. Trip to teh post office, barcode scanner, pay the money, done.
Only ... the new V5C with my details on it arrived to today. And you wanna guess how many digits it's reference number has? Yep, 11 ...
Bear in mind that both systems are run by the same department, for the same big building in Swansea, not far from here. That both are completely automated: people don't get involved in the tax or V5C issuing side. And the systems designed by this department to work with the documents issued by this department don't work together because some idiot in the software department can't count ... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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This convoluted procedure will not work here in the USA (specifically Florida). Dealers are totally geared to expedite the separation of you from your money. You will hear them howl if the government impedes the selling of cars in any way! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Loudest among them the tax collectors wailing that you're screwing with their ability to skim sales tax off a very large purchase. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Two questions:
0) What does MOT stand for?
1) Can you avoid the gov't getting paid twice if you sell the car on the last day of the month, and the new owner doesn't drive it until the next day?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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0) Ministry Of Transport - the "ministry" became a "department" years ago, but the test name has stuck even with the government.
1) In theory yes - but you know what governments are like: if you don't declare SORN (Statutory Off Road Notice) when you buy it they'll probably hit you for the month anyway.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Actually they are reasonably happy with the concept of selling on the last day of the month and the new owner taxing on the next day, and offer advice over the phone to that extent. True they do point out the technical need for a SORN but if you inform them of the sale, which you can do over the internet, during the last hour of play (as defined by their technical opening hours) on the last day of the month, and tax it within the first hour of play on the first day of the next month it is effectively taxed because their system has not yet got around to deciding that it's untaxed.
Government inefficiencies can be put to ones advantage but they are admittedly very few and very far between. In the main government systems are just a complete pain.
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OriginalGriff wrote: automated system wants the 12 digit reference number. Except the V5C/3 I got only has an 11 digit number
Try a leading 0.
I had a bank teller (the human type) get confused when the system she uses daily refused a bank account number of mine because it was apparently expecting one more digit. The leading 0 is the first thing that came to my mind--and sure enough, it worked.
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OriginalGriff wrote: 3) Road Tax:
There is no such thing in the UK, see I Pay Road Tax[^].
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OriginalGriff wrote: To use a car on the road in the UK, you must should have:
When my younger brother was at Junior Ranger Camp in Moosenee, Ontario, Canada (find Hudson Bay on the map, Moosenee is at the South end of the Bay), the taxi drivers were 12 years old.
Technically, you are SUPPOSED to be 16 to even get a learners permit let alone a driver's license, but, since there are no roads leaving town - access into the town is by water or rail only - the police figured, if there's a problem, its hard to get away.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Except the V5C/3 I got only has an 11 digit number and the phone system won't take it. OK. Try the internet. No dice, it wants 12 digits as well.
Intrigued, I just checked my 'log book': the part the new keeper is supposed to have is the V5C/2 (V5C/3 is for traders), and although the main portion of the log book has an 11-digit ref number, the V5C/2 has an extra leading 7 (in my case). You could try adding that? The V5C/3 has the original 11 digits.
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Just reading some of the soapbox threads. More and more, the following would seem to cover it:
It's amazing the extraordinary lengths these people will go to to go to extraordinary lengths.
But, I guess that's what it's for.
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boah......
what I tried to write e^abs(x).... 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: It's amazing the extraordinary lengths these people will go to to go to extraordinary lengths.
This statement is way too short and concise,
only 2 goto's?
Fail: we demand extraordinary length and not withstanding a hell of a lot more obscurification
Sin tack
the any key okay
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We had a power outage (or 3) at the office and our internal office servers and network is fried.
This[^] is me today.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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At least it happened on a Friday, so you can have a relaxing weekend before you have to fix it, eh?
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Just wait til 4:30, then it really goes downhill.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Quote: We had a power outage
I strongly assume, what you will say is: Our coffee machine does not work. And before this is not solved..... 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Quote: Our coffee machine does not work
Nooooooooooooooooooo!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Nooooooooo and mui noooooo
I left 60 capsules nespresso because private coffee machines were banned in my company last week. I can send you the capsules gladly.
Bruno 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Quote: coffee machines were banned in my company
Are they a bunch of communists? 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Mwaaa, electricity is so 20th century ... who needs it ?
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Thanks for that, that lead me to this: top 5 beaker moments - YouTube[^]
made my day. beaker is my favorite.
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I ran into this[^] which made my day.
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Indeed!
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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