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I'm planning on learning how to weld.
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Yeah, I feel ya. Studying for something for decades only to have someone overlook a resume due to something like a font not being bold, etc. gets old. Supply and demand my friend.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: With the millennial generation (arguably) not really learning any new life skill
Like what? How to chop down a tree? Or shoe a horse?
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Every industry on the planet, the longer it exists without real novelty
That is a perception fostered by the speed of the news. Powered flight seemed new at the time but only because no one was continuously reporting one the many people around the world that had been working on it for years (probably since 'powered' existed.) If such reporting had happened then it is likely that even more people would have been working on it and others would have been considering the impact before it occurred.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Demand goes down.
Not sure what that means. Internationalization of markets means that demands for products that once only had a very local market now have a vastly bigger market and increased demand for it.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: But, as we try and get more and more people "able to code" at a younger age we in essence dilute ourselves in the marketplace - tech wise.
Statistics do not support that. At least not in the US. Demand as measured by actual open jobs in IT (and all technical skills) is growing at a much faster rate than the population and tracking of coursework suggests a decline in those that choose to follow it.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: I know there was a news story on CP the other day about resumes dying
I missed that article. However I have seen no indication anywhere that the hiring process has improved in an objective way. Online allows the process to speed up but it doesn't improve the befuddle and chaotic process of those doing the hiring (HR and technical people).
I wouldn't be surprised if there are some marketing and sales (and only those disciplines) who attempt alternatives to a resume for landing a job. But that isn't really new. 50 years ago they might not have tried that but 20 years ago they were doing it.
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jschell wrote: s
I'm gonna argue with this letter. I don't like "s". You shouldn't use "s".
jschell wrote: .
I don't know why you use periods in your posts. I have no intention of ever agreeing with it though. I'd rather just do nothing but argue with people online to feel better.
jschell wrote: .
Here we are with a period again. Once again, rather than me having a conversation where I can pick up on something I'd rather debate anything being said. So, I think you should consider not using periods.
I mean sure, debating can be good, but if that's all we ever do online, that's a problem.
Jeremy Falcon
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Hallelujah, brother. 
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Jeremy Falcon
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We're now on the nth update of VS2017, yet since the beginning, mine constantly litters my editor with red underlines and squigglies for things that are correct. The project builds and works, yet the bloody text editor thinks there are 20 errors in one screen of a Razor view .cshtml file.
Does anyone else share my feelings on this? Or is this situation unique to my Visual Studio only. I doubt the latter because I have seen this logged for VS2017 a few times.
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley
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I've had this in regular C# code as well, not to that extent though. And yes, it's annoying and another example of "why fix things if there's new shiny stuff to add".
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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sometimes I use the option "only show build error"
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Brady Kelly wrote: for things that - you think - are correct
FTFY 
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Well, if I only think they're correct while they're not, why does the website work 100%?
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley
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In many case, website still seems to work perfectly even though there are still some uglies in the code. 
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That's not necessarily a fix for him. I find it displaying things IT thinks are wrong but aren't just as often.
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I never moved from 2013 - not quite as stable as 2010 but close enough to get work done without random events loosing work or it just going into la-la land.
I did try 2015 but it too had 'issues' and ms had way too soon stopped updating it in the rush to push out 2017.
Seems they are now too involved adding 'features' to the languages to bother with the IDE. (and let's face it, all those 'brand new' features really do is save is perhaps an extra line or 3 something that cant already be done anyway - and for readability as often those actions probably should be done longhand anyway.)
You realise soon it'll be 2018, ms' focus will move off vs2017 and into the already mentioned vs2019 - and just like 2015 (and even 2013 though at least it's safely usable) vs2017 will remain unfinished (no more updates). And yes, 2 years later 2019 too will become ignored and unfinished.
I really wish ms would return to a 3+ year major release cycle, they've amply demonstrated they cant manage anything less.
Installing Signature...
Do not switch off your computer.
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Lopatir wrote: I really wish ms would return to a 3+ year major release cycle, they've amply demonstrated they cant manage anything less.
Maybe. Or they just have jumped the shark and friged the nuke.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Don't get me wrong. Except for this complaint, I absolutely love VS2017. I find it a much more comfortable IDE than VS2015. Then there is C#7, which as far as I know isn't handled by VS2013, and maybe not even VS2015.
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley
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I could not agree more. I am currently using VS2015 and other than sheer "greed" could never understand why Microsoft started bring out new versions every 2 years. Personally I wish they would go to a 4 year cycle and bring out VS versions that have been thoroughly de-bugged.
Just because you can... does not mean that you should....
An important lesson/truism/aphorism that has escaped our entire industry.
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The only place I encounter that is the annoying XAML tendency to want rebuilds when items are added or namespaces changed.
Of course I'm running Resharper, so that might be a factor.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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I never code without ReSharper, so I doubt that's the differentiator.
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley
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Brady Kelly wrote: Or is this situation unique to my Visual Studio only
Yes, it's you. VS uses the web.config file in the Views folder to determine what assemblies to load to verify your razor code. If you are getting squiggles in the editor it is likely that your Views\web.config file is not correct.
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MVC Core doesn't have any of the two older web.configs, and I get this problem as soon as I create a new MVC web app project, without adding or changing anything.
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley
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Sounds like, broken by design.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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Why ever would MS do that? Do they want me to purchase a competing IDE?
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley
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I've never had that problem.
Brady Kelly wrote: yet the bloody text editor thinks there are 20 errors in one screen of a Razor view .cshtml file.
Ah, yes, there I've noticed that. It's weird, if I let VS mull it over for a few minutes (literally, on this POC machine I have at work) the squiggles go away. I also read somewhere that deleting the PDB files or something, don't remember what, refreshes "stuff" so the editor works again, at least for a while.
But then again, the whole idea of mixing server-side code inside an HTML file that is already polluted with Javascript that gets turned into "print" statements with embedded code that is then compiled and executed to generate the HTML, well, I know that was like the coolest thing since sliced bread when people started doing it, and certainly all those script-kiddie languages glommed onto the idea right away, but in actual practice, I find it a horrendous approach. I could elaborate, but I don't think it's necessary.
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I don't mix real "server code" into my Razor pages, only that code that issues the "print statements" you mention.
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley
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