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For Chris it means he's going out for a long bike ride in -10°C temperatures.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I think about -4C was my coldest this season. I am getting soft in my old age.
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Chris Maunder
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Same here. I haven't run outside in over a month, for largely the same reason.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I can't believe it took 13hrs for someone to make that joke.
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Chris Maunder
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Better late than never.
Jeremy Falcon
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Some years ago (XP days?) I had a Norton infestation. They actually had one good and useful (free) product. A "remove everything Norton" tool. No idea if it's still there, but it might be worth a look.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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There was a time when Norton was good and loved by all. Norton Commander anyone? It could be removed simply with del *.*
Ok there were some people that used xTree Gold but we don't talk about them.
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When I buy a new machine like this, I blow out everything and start fresh with a clean install of the OS, then take it from there.
IMHO, you are wasting your time trying to delete from the machine what you don't want; some of which, will never leave.
Just a thought. 
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I just gave up on trying to be Mr Nice Guy.
Blowing away partition and starting from scratch.
Why does this have to be so painful?
(and as a Windows user I have to say: Apple does this WAY, way better)
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Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Why does this have to be so painful?
I often ask myself the same question, and I often get no answers. 
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That was when he was an elite programmer/writer/teacher. Now he's a rich company owner, what did you expect?  Also, I bet he's not remotely involved in the software design/functionality - probably spends most of his time in his beach mansion on some fancy pacific island. 
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Peter hasn't been involved with Norton Utilities for aeons. Unfortunately.
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Chris Maunder
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They'll say the same about you too soon I'd imagine.
Remember Chris Maunder, the Aussie MFC hacker who wrote all those neat controls. Well, now he's a fat middle aged beer drinker living in Canada
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Hey - I didn't call Peter fat! (But if being fat and drinking beer is what's needed to be as successful as he is, where do I sign?)
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Chris Maunder
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Are you insinuating something about him (CM)? 
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I was on the support team at Symantec when they released Norton Utilities v.3 for Windows 95. I always felt bad for the callers who were mystified that after installing the entire product they could not find their deleted files in the recovery tool. They didn't read the manual; didn't use the floppy boot disk DOS-based recovery tool. Oops...
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I remember fixing a PC pestered with bloatware and the Norton uninstaller didn't work. It simply didn't want me to uninstall Norton.
So I surgically removed it. Looked for everything where Norton was sittng and removed it carefully.
After removing all things Norton, the network stack was broken. Those imbecils @ Symantec whom ought to be forbidden from touching a computer ever again managed to tie Norton with the network stack in a way to make the network stack not work without Norton components! This is meaner than what most parasites do, this is pretty much what the facehugger does: Making sure that it's poor host dies when the parasite is removed.
After this occurence, I made an oath to never ever touch Norton again except for killing it with holy fires of "Down with crap".
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Please do not repost the same thing immediately if it doesn't appear - it was sent to moderation and required a human to let (and it's two identical twins) through. I then had to chase it down and delete the spares.
Have a little patience, we are all volunteers and we get to it as fast as possible. In this case, at most a minute or two had passed...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I haven't reposted it because it went into moderation and I apologize for making you think I think you're lazy. While I'd like to know what exactly flagged my post for moderation, I never assumed that I had to resubmit again to make the post appear. That would be rather stupid.
It was a typo I tried to fix. I posted it, noticed the typo and because the form was still there, on my screen, and the tab was still loading, I assumed it haven't submitted (as I've seen several other forums working this way) so I've corrected my typo and clicked submitted again, assuming the previous submission wasn't sucessful.
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Kirill Illenseer wrote: While I'd like to know what exactly flagged my post for moderation
Not something you will find out: the automated system is heuristic, and has a mind of it's own! Nobody - except moderators - gets told why it's there to prevent spammers getting clues that might help them bypass it.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Does anyone have a Surface Laptop with the Alcantara keyboard surround?
If so, how dirty does it get?
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Chris Maunder
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Um ... not seen one, but ...
Surface Laptop is just a laptop, making it Microsoft’s most baffling release yet | Ars Technica[^]
Quote: Colors aside, the one novelty of the Surface Laptop is the keyboard surround. Rather than bare metal or some kind of composite, Microsoft has covered it with Alcantara, a synthetic fabric. Microsoft has used Alcantara for keyboard surrounds before, as most of the new Surface Pro keyboards use it, for example. Alcantara is more commonly used in a range of automotive applications, such as to cover steering wheels. It's designed to be hard-wearing and tolerant of the sweat and grime that are features of this kind of use.
There's a chance that in three or four years I'll be proven wrong, but today the fabric strikes me as an entirely inappropriate choice for lining a laptop's interior. I've seen many disgusting-looking Alcantara Type Covers for Surface Pro 4, and after regular usage, they just get dirty and grimy and are impossible to clean. The Alcantara used in the Surface Laptop is supposed to be better—more resistant to dirt, easier to wipe down—but I simply don't buy it.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: strikes me as an entirely inappropriate choice for lining a laptop's interior
Pretty much my thought too.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Here is how I view them: Some people prefer a traditional laptop form factor, but still want the beautiful Surface screen and may not be as interested in using a pen (the Surface Laptop supports the pen, but doesn't come with it included.) If you haven't seen one in person, they're (IMO) pretty stinking sexy.
Also, for what it's worth: The wife approval rating has been a solid "holy crap I love this thing." 
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