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Nelek wrote: trying to kill a fly with a bazooka
Grasshoppers should do what they know to do best: Dig holes in the ground. If a fly needs to be killed, use the right tool[^].
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: High level code... 4 lines. Compile: 34 Kb translated code, cycle time increased by 10 to 15 ms every time the function was being called.
Equally astounding about that 34 KB is the proportion of it that is composed of code pulled into the translation unit from the runtime library and other overhead, such as linkage editor fixup tables.
Nelek wrote: Cup of coffee, earphones, music, "do not disturb" sign on my desk, 2 hours work = code written in LAD? (english name for german AWL) which is kind of similar to assembly. Function 1,7 kb code, cycle time not visibly affected by the use of the function (meaning: impact < 0,5ms).
For code that runs often, that much of a performance improvement absolutely justifies implementing in assembly language. The skill is in divining which bits warrant the extra effort.
Nelek wrote: High level languages are nice and can perform a real huge amount of things, but sometimes it is like trying to kill a fly with a bazooka.
Indeed. However, my point in explaining about the function that returned a structure is that using the disassembly view in the debugger enabled me to identify a simple, mostly transparent change that eliminated a memory copy that happened every time the memory stream opener was called. Had I stayed in the source code view, that easily cured inefficiency would have gone unnoticed.
David A. Gray
Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time
Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
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I'm happy you are not silicon, and are a human-carbon being with a rich experience you generously share, here ! I admire people who get down the stack.
cheers, Bill
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
modified 13-Jul-18 15:12pm.
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BillWoodruff wrote: Silicon units do not need to recite their resumes, and congratulate themselves on their own intuition
I think you missed my point, which was to draw attention to the benefits of understanding assembly language and how the CPU works, regardless of how many layers of abstraction there are between you and the CPU.
David A. Gray
Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time
Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
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I apologize, David, if the first paragraph of my response failed at being humor: I'll remove it.
I meant what I said in the second paragraph !
cheers, Bill
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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There's no need for such drastic measures, since I suspected as much. My remark about it was directed not at you, but at lurkers who might have missed the gist.
David A. Gray
Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time
Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
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I picked up a new book at Barnes & Noble today:
Valley of Genius: The Uncensored History of Silicon Valley (As Told by the Hackers, Founders, and Freaks Who Made It Boom)^[^]
Decided to get it because it quotes the real people who were there and because of this great quote from Woz, which I had never read before. Makes a salient point.
Steve Wozniak: Look, I came up with the product that made Apple! If Steve Jobs had started without me, where would he have gone? Keep in mind, Steve tried to make four computers in his life -- with millions of dollars -- and they all failed: the Apple III, for marketing reasons; the Lisa, because Steve didn't understand costs; the Macintosh, which wasn't really a computer, just a program that looked like a computer and led to big problems later on; and the NeXT.
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There is also the opposite side of it: Without Jobs, Woz likely would have stayed working as a board designer at HP. I suspect it was the combination of Jobs / Wozniak (not to mention the other folks involved) that really made Apple work in the early days.
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This has proven to be the case many times. Two or more people together can have a synergy that could not be matched if they were acting independently.
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Rick York wrote: Two or more people together can have a synergy that could not be matched if they were acting independently.
This is why I talk to myself. It helps me resolve issues when I get stuck. 
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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raddevus wrote: If Gates had not convinced Apple to bring Jobs back...
Ummm... I don't recall ever hearing that one. I know Apple CEO Gil Amelio bought Next which brought Jobs back into the fold. I know Jobs maneuvered to get Amelio fired (he resigned before it happened). I know Jobs and Gates "made up" enough that Microsoft temporarily invested in Apple - basically keeping them afloat.
But I never heard that Gates had anything to do with Apple buying Next or bringing back Jobs.
EDIT: According to this Gates tried to talk Amelio out of buying Next because of Jobs.
The love-hate relationship between Bill Gates and Steve Jobs - Business Insider[^]
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I thought Wozniak was more humble than that and actually smarter. Any tech company in the world would have loved to have Jobs to evangalise their product. That was his success - his failures are quite irrelevant except for the fact he did not give up. The world is full of brilliant engineers wondering why their door is not being beaten down in the rush to buy their new gadget.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
modified 12-Jul-18 21:04pm.
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Oh, you are definitely correct.
Marketing is far more powerful than creation. People buy popular garbage at a far greater rate than unknown great stuff. And, no, I'm not saying Apple stuff is garbage just because it is popular.
I'm only saying that marketing is far more powerful than development of any product.
What does humility have to do with this anyways? Jobs wasn't humble and you are saying he was a great marketer / businessman and everyone wanted him, so why would Woz have to be humble?
The point is that Jobs had millions of dollars for multiple projects and could only succeed with one.
And was it really him that had succeeded? Questionable.
The ipod was already being worked on and the iMac was completely done before he rejoined in '97 and those were the two projects that put Apple back on the map.
Also, if you worked directly with Jobs you'd probably feel different about him.
For example, have you read Andy Hertzfeld's great book,
Revolution in The Valley : The Insanely Great Story of How the Mac Was Made[^]
You'll read about how Jobs literally made Andy cry.
Probably anyone with the amount of money that Jobs had backing him and the ultimate power he had would have to succeed at some point. That's why the story of Jobs himself is really all just marketing glitter. And that's fine too. That's how it works in business. If you get the attention then people send their money.
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Humility is required when a claim is made about a person who cannot reply particularly if you are appropriating their achievements. Whether Jobs or Wozniak are/were nice guys is another matter.
I am no great fan of Jobs but he is a good example of why the US in particular is so good at commercialising new technology (this does not have to make me a fan of the US either). It in my opinion goes way beyond marketing.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Yeah, after learning how Jobs actually TREATED PEOPLE...
I lost all respect for him.
He would lie to anybody to get ahead. He lied to Woz about the bonus they would get for Atari, and kept most of it, but split the LIE portion with Woz. I've worked for someone like that ONCE. He called me long after, I told him if I was dying in the street I wouldn't work for him to save my life!
Next, his daughter. HIS OWN DAUGHTER. What a self-interested, egotistical SALESMAN. And yep, he knew how to buy low and sell how, I believe that's how he acquired Pixar... (The seller was going through a divorce, I beleive).
And I used one of his NEXT Machines. Cool on the inside/outside. Slow as heck, and that dang Writable CD was a great idea UNTIL you used it. It was slow. And you often forgot you CD in the lab in a computer for someone else to steal. Nice...
But I will give him this credit. He had a flare for FEEL. Making a product that FEELS right. that FEELS simple. That FEELS special. And he had an interesting process for getting people to get things done...
But in my world. Rule #1 is: It's about People!
When you treat them badly... I am not interested you. You are a bad example. Being STERN is one thing, abandoning your daughter, and her mother because you wont be responsible for your actions... That just creates dysfunction...
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He seems to have left a fair bit of bad karma which may be a lesson to us all.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I need someone to create some icons for me. To start I need Standard toolbar icons. More will follow.
Can anyone recommend someone?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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For standard toolbar icons, you might want to check out these folks https://icons8.com/. They're free as long as you include proper attribution.
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Already there. I downloaded (Saved As) a bunch of icons and they look really strange in a WPF window. The backgrounds are transparent which looks ok, the foreground colors are all pixilated.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Hmm...strange, they've worked fine for me in WinForm apps before. Can't recall if I used them for WPF. I'd play with the XAML a little bit. Maybe you have a size mismatch and the pixelation comes from stretching/squeezing the images?
To be clear, not claiming they'll win any art show awards  , but I wasn't seeing any pixelation in the ones I used.
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