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If your talking about the circular dependency issue here, I agree it is no big deal (at least for me). Though, it would be nice if MS would occasionally QA some of these VS releases. Lately, judging by The Lounge, problems seem to have become more the rule than the exception.
This problem should have been easy to catch in QA. It only made me waste a small bit of time, but I got a laugh for the effort, so worth it 
With the Windows 10 October update, sounds like a much bigger deal, if you get hit by it. There seems to be some debate if the files simply become inaccessible to the user (my guess) or are actually deleted.
This should be the most basic responsibility of any OS...don't misplace/lose my stuff!
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Sure. I agree. I also know that this was a major f-up on their part and as of this morning it is still not fixed. Ugh.
However, still, I know they will fix it and hopefully will have learned from this mistake, if not for a few days....hours....Ok, they will not have learned, but still... 
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Fair enough...I give MS credit for acknowledging a mistake. Hopefully, not too many early adopters got bit. That said, I'm still a cheer-leader for basic QA. I can't imagine how much more basic (than keeping your files) it could be.
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I gotta say, it has been fairly uneventful (I really like uneventful).
I'm going to convert my windows install into a VM, and see how compatible the Linux version of Thunderbird is with my Windows version's data files this weekend. If that works out, all I really have left tethering me to Windows is Visual Studio.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Linux gets better with every release.
I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart
I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!
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Yeah, it's pretty close to "i just wanna get sh*t done", and almost doesn't require propeller-head status/skillz.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Yep! It just works!
I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart
I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!
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I'm about 2 months ahead of you doing exactly that
1. moved t-bird to linux, no probs, minor bit of fiddling about but trivial
2. installed VS (initially 2013, then 2017) on VM's (with projects in a shared linux directory*
... * no not it's NOT a folder, it's a directory, stupid windows! even ms has chdir, not chfol.)
install t-bird, start it, create dummy account, skip giving it login info, exit t-bird, move the .roaming data directories over, edit profiles.ini to point to the copied ?????.default, edit the prefs.js to point the mail.server.serverx entries to the directories where the mailboxes are, start t-bird.... for me it just worked, the old saved passwords and all.
created a w7 VM (virtualbox), installed 7 - start it and create account, [snapshot], notepad++, inno installer, mysql connector & workbench (running the mysql on the host), couple of others - nothing heavy [snapshot], vs 2017, start vs, set prefs (including point projects at shared linux drive), [snapshot] )
Worthwhile: snapshots along the way, can reset to (or clone from any snapshot) to easily revert/re-create to any point. (Initially I installed vs2013, then using the pre-vs snapshot cloned it and have another with vs2017 - means 2017 installed on vanilla with no old version baggage.)
Also can clone the windows-only for a a completely clean test environment (easier than creating a brand new VM and installing win again.)
Finally a vanilla w10 VM, for testing. (Host only network, I'll enable it's full network only once in a blue moon so it will only ever update when I say.)
Keep the projects outside the VM - super easy to point any new/old VM at the dev/release locations - no need to fart about copying and pasting.
BTW: w10 vs w7 on equal VM's: w10 boots, runs, and even shuts down noticeably slower. worse still even just idling w10 causes my machine run 5 - 10 degrees warmer than 7. And of course 10 (vs 7) still sucks as a dev env - it's just wrong and really unhelpful.
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I'm gonna pick up a used NUC this weekend (i3 dual core, 4gb DDR4, 60gb ssd) with Linux already installed. Gonna put Kodi on it and use it as a HTPC. This will be the 5th Linux box on my network.
I need to convince my wife to try Linux. She might go for it if I put her Win7 into a VM to serve as a backup...
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Way to go!
Years back I used various *nix - full-on propeller-head mode, and was expecting more of the same.
When I set up this machine a couple of months ago was surprised, it really was even easier than installing windows, everything fully worked out of the box, very first boot.
Same as you, only 1 thing tying me to windows is vs (for work), Absolutely everything else is on the 'nux, and well, it's just better, way better. (faster, cleaner, less stupid crap happening.)
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I tried (probably over a year ago) to use a low-requirements distribution (Lubuntu) to use pretty much exclusively with my projector - simple task - and what made me roll back to Windows is the fact that I couldn't get a driver that could do hardware graphics acceleration. Could find very little help, and installing a video driver is apparently beyond my patience with Linux.
480p video was fine, 720p was stuttery, and 1080p was impossible to play. The same videos, on the same hardware, with a proper video driver, work flawlessly.
Let us know how it works out with the NUC.
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Amen to the snapshots! I'm on a Mac but have to run a windows VM for certain functions (The database schema tool is PowerDesigner 7. Don't ask, it's a painful as it sounds.) Periodically, when making a schema change something happens in the process (a huge honkin' convoluted mess of a process) and you are completely hosed.
Snapshots have saved my bacon more than once. I do them regularly when needing to make a schema change, before and after a successful completion.
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<nitpicking mode>
Directory ⊆ Folder
A directory is a file system concept while the folder is a container in the shell namespace.
</nitpicking mode>
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Next step is vim.
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Run a DOS VM, Viola: Edlin 
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Quote: Viola
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redneck for voila
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: If that works out, all I really have left tethering me to Windows is Visual Studio.
Visual Studio Code with .NET Core should work on Linux 
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Just installed it on the new (linux) laptop.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I'm closing on 10 years of Linux as main OS, with lot of VM's for years...
Now I closed SQL VM (running on Linux itself) and dropped VS in favor of VS Code about a year ago... Granted that VS have more features but VS Code get's more and more of it already and basicaly built on a very powerful plug-in system, so I can extend it to myself with very little effort...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Do Church mice talk to you about Cheesus?
(Early today: I have to take Herself shoe shopping, gawd help me. I'm driving as well, so I can't just hide in a nearby pub.)
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
modified 5-Oct-18 8:57am.
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You own personal cheeses[^], no less.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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You took a Chancel with that one and it doesn't Altar the fact you fell right into my trap.
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Oh pew
I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart
I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!
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word of advice: church mice make lousy pointing devices - too often moved by the holy spirit.
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