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6-Nov-18 3:58

So, I'm setting up a new Windows 10 VM to work with a client. Using edge to access my outlook 365, it's slow, it's dodgy, and it's hung at the moment trying to send something.

Okay, say hello to my little friend firefox. The bing results informs me that "Microsoft Edge is the faster, safer browser on Windows 10 and it is already installed on your PC"

D'Oh! | :doh:

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lopatir6-Nov-18 4:03

lopatir

6-Nov-18 4:03

charlieg wrote:
"Microsoft Edge is the faster, safer browser on Windows 10 and it is already installed on your PC"

there we go, bashing ms again!
... you can't get much safer then non functioning.
so there!

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charlieg6-Nov-18 4:21

6-Nov-18 4:21

shutting laptop down, going to start landscape business....

Gary Wheeler6-Nov-18 6:43

Gary Wheeler

6-Nov-18 6:43

charlieg wrote:
going to start landscape business....

Why not try a portrait business instead? Inside work, no heavy lifting, and the worst thing you have to deal with are the fussy parents of neurotic high school seniors.

Software Zen: delete this;

DRHuff6-Nov-18 7:56

DRHuff

6-Nov-18 7:56

I could picture myself doing that...

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Richard Deeming6-Nov-18 4:33

Richard Deeming

6-Nov-18 4:33

charlieg wrote:
The bing results informs me that "Microsoft Edge is the faster, safer browser on Windows 10 and it is already installed on your PC"

At least you didn't "bing" for Chrome:
Microsoft has been serving a malware-filled Chrome link through Bing[^]
D'Oh! | :doh:

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W∴ Balboos, GHB6-Nov-18 8:48

W∴ Balboos, GHB

6-Nov-18 8:48

I just used bing to search for "Chrome Browser" and "FireFox"

Both gave me quite respectable results - nothing like what you (and chrome ref, below) are mentioning.

I feel a bit cheated.

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charlieg6-Nov-18 9:11

From the Museum of Ugly Code

6-Nov-18 9:11

Well, it gets funnier. So, I'm on a conf call with IT Support. Seems they can't get Skype for Business to work for me. He fires up team viewer, and the first thing he does? Closes Edge, runs IE11. I wonder what he knows I don't?

Smile | :)

raddevus6-Nov-18 2:57

6-Nov-18 2:57

When you see this, it only takes a few extra seconds to think about what the dev intends.
But... Dead | X|

JavaScript

for (;!objSourceSubFolders.atEnd(); objSourceSubFolders.moveNext()) {
    // do something with the files in the folder.
}

First of all, not sure why you need to use Hungarian notation to signal that this is an obj.

But, more importantly, does the dev not know of the existence of the while loop? Or did he think this was an innovative approach? Sigh | :sigh:

Look how much simpler this is to read.

JavaScript

while (!sourceSubFolders.atEnd()){
    // do something with files in the folder
    sourceSubFolders.moveNext();
}

EDIT
This one is for all you people. You know who you are! Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

JavaScript

do {
    // do something with files in the folder
    sourceSubFolders.moveNext();
}
while (!sourceSubFolders.atEnd());

modified 7-Nov-18 13:29pm.

11917640 Member 6-Nov-18 3:14

11917640 Member

6-Nov-18 3:14

while (!sourceSubFolders.atEnd()){
    // do something with files in the folder and don't use "continue"
    sourceSubFolders.moveNext();
}

DerekT-P6-Nov-18 23:29

DerekT-P

6-Nov-18 23:29

Indeed. At least the original structure stopped the developer (and other, later developers) from omitting the first instance; or putting extraneous code after possibly hitting the end. Defensive programming... Wink | ;-)

den2k886-Nov-18 3:17

den2k88

6-Nov-18 3:17

It is the smart(ass) approach. I am working on code that makes things like these pale.

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raddevus6-Nov-18 3:25

6-Nov-18 3:25

den2k88 wrote:
I am working on code that makes things like these pale.

I know. It's not that bad.
It's just interesting when you see that empty statement in the for loop.

charlieg6-Nov-18 3:56

6-Nov-18 3:56

I second the smart ass approach assessment. Someone is showing off his understanding of default loop behavior, coding bugs at a high rate of speed. I love this:

"if (bVariable = someothervar)
{
do something
}"

despise assignments in conditionals and that was a simple example.

raddevus6-Nov-18 4:18

6-Nov-18 4:18

charlieg wrote:
if (bVariable = someothervar)

That's a very ugly one.
I had to try it in JS. It works, always runs.
C# at least gives you an error "cannot implicitly convert 'int' to 'bool'

boarderstu6-Nov-18 22:38

boarderstu

6-Nov-18 22:38

That's nothing.

I had this once in JS

if(functionName) //that's a reference, not a call!

{

    //Do something

} else

{

   //Some other equally poor code

}

It came up at pull request that as it's a function reference, it will always be true, and thus got rejected.

Anyway, the bloke went mental, telling me I couldn't reject it as I hadn't run the code to see if it worked....

He started randomly rejecting my pull requests after that.

DerekT-P6-Nov-18 23:22

DerekT-P

6-Nov-18 23:22

no, it won't always be true. Consider:

var functionName=null;
//
// ...
//
if (functionName) { 
    alert('true') 
} else { 
    alert('false') 
}

functionName = function() { 
 // Some useful stuff
}

if (functionName) { 
    alert('true') 
} else { 
    alert('false') 
}

There are plenty of use cases where testing a function for existence is perfectly valid. I guess not in that particular case though.

boarderstu6-Nov-18 23:30

boarderstu

6-Nov-18 23:30

Fair point!

In this case, it was just poor

raddevus7-Nov-18 1:57

7-Nov-18 1:57

boarderstu wrote:
if(functionName) //that's a reference, not a call!

If (!undefined) { // do some !undefined stuff.}
Very ugly.

It's almost like a preprocessing directive.
#ifndef DEBUG

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz6-Nov-18 5:16

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

6-Nov-18 5:16

charlieg wrote:
"if (bVariable = someothervar)

I know it's kool and all and allows for compact code, but really this has been the source of so many EFFING bugs, this construct should be disallowed in any language. Curse the inventor of "C" for adding it the language.

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