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So, I'm setting up a new Windows 10 VM to work with a client. Using edge to access my outlook 365, it's slow, it's dodgy, and it's hung at the moment trying to send something.
Okay, say hello to my little friend firefox. The bing results informs me that "Microsoft Edge is the faster, safer browser on Windows 10 and it is already installed on your PC"
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: "Microsoft Edge is the faster, safer browser on Windows 10 and it is already installed on your PC"
there we go, bashing ms again!
... you can't get much safer then non functioning.
so there!
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shutting laptop down, going to start landscape business....
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: going to start landscape business....
Why not try a portrait business instead? Inside work, no heavy lifting, and the worst thing you have to deal with are the fussy parents of neurotic high school seniors.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I could picture myself doing that...
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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charlieg wrote: The bing results informs me that "Microsoft Edge is the faster, safer browser on Windows 10 and it is already installed on your PC"
At least you didn't "bing" for Chrome:
Microsoft has been serving a malware-filled Chrome link through Bing[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I just used bing to search for "Chrome Browser" and "FireFox"
Both gave me quite respectable results - nothing like what you (and chrome ref, below) are mentioning.
I feel a bit cheated.
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Well, it gets funnier. So, I'm on a conf call with IT Support. Seems they can't get Skype for Business to work for me. He fires up team viewer, and the first thing he does? Closes Edge, runs IE11. I wonder what he knows I don't?
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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while (!sourceSubFolders.atEnd()){
sourceSubFolders.moveNext();
}
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Indeed. At least the original structure stopped the developer (and other, later developers) from omitting the first instance; or putting extraneous code after possibly hitting the end. Defensive programming... 
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It is the smart(ass) approach. I am working on code that makes things like these pale.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: I am working on code that makes things like these pale.
I know. It's not that bad.
It's just interesting when you see that empty statement in the for loop.
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I second the smart ass approach assessment. Someone is showing off his understanding of default loop behavior, coding bugs at a high rate of speed. I love this:
"if (bVariable = someothervar)
{
do something
}"
despise assignments in conditionals and that was a simple example.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: if (bVariable = someothervar)
That's a very ugly one.
I had to try it in JS. It works, always runs.
C# at least gives you an error "cannot implicitly convert 'int' to 'bool'
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That's nothing.
I had this once in JS
if(functionName) //that's a reference, not a call!
{
//Do something
} else
{
//Some other equally poor code
}
It came up at pull request that as it's a function reference, it will always be true, and thus got rejected.
Anyway, the bloke went mental, telling me I couldn't reject it as I hadn't run the code to see if it worked....
He started randomly rejecting my pull requests after that.
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no, it won't always be true. Consider:
var functionName=null;
if (functionName) {
alert('true')
} else {
alert('false')
}
functionName = function() {
}
if (functionName) {
alert('true')
} else {
alert('false')
}There are plenty of use cases where testing a function for existence is perfectly valid. I guess not in that particular case though.
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Fair point!
In this case, it was just poor
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boarderstu wrote: if(functionName)
If (!undefined) { // do some !undefined stuff.}
Very ugly.
It's almost like a preprocessing directive.
#ifndef DEBUG
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charlieg wrote: "if (bVariable = someothervar)
I know it's kool and all and allows for compact code, but really this has been the source of so many EFFING bugs, this construct should be disallowed in any language. Curse the inventor of "C" for adding it the language.
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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charlieg wrote:
despise assignments in conditionals and that was a simple example.
Yes yes yes.
Also scoped variables are cool but... they still end up on the stack. There is really no need to use them, apart from making the code more difficult to read and to maintain.
And: kids, always initialize your variables. If you are absolutely, positively sure that the variable in question will never be read before being written on and that the data written on it are always meaningful then at least state it in a comment.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: scoped variables ... apart from making the code more difficult to read and to maintain.
I actually find using scoped variables makes code easier to read and maintain.  YMMV. And it has fixed and avoided many a bug for me.den2k88 wrote: always initialize your variables
Indeed. Yes!
den2k88 wrote: absolutely, positively sure
That works until it doesn't. See first rule: initialize!
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: I actually find using scoped variables makes code easier to read and maintain. YMMV. And it has fixed and avoided many a bug for me.
If the code is well written, I concur. When they are used in 300-500 lines jack-of-all-trades functions with dozens of scopes inside and badly named variables on the other hand...
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: That works until it doesn't. See first rule: initialize!
My experience exactly
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Scoped vars make so much sense!
They stop sh*tty devs just using those variables and other functions polluting them
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Just how a scoped variable can be polluted by another function? I'm not talking about local variables vs global ones - that would be silly - but of variables declared in nested blocks, as
if (condition){
int xyz;
int abc;
}
abc and xyz will exist only inside the if block and then disappear again. Is that bad? No, if the code is well written (short clear functions) and those variables are positively needed only in that condition statement.
If the code is long and complex jous just end up in a screen of code where there are two "things" named abc and xyz that weren't used anywhere else... it's confusing, to say the least.
Also there is no real benefit since all those variables are stack based so no allocation ever takes place - no need to "save those bytes on the stack" or "save the allocation time".
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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