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(Intended as a satirical view of managers who just don't get it.)
Manager: I need you to train this dog.
Developer: Sure, we train dogs all the time. It'll take a month.
Manager: I need this dog trained by the end of the week.
Developer: We can't have that dog trained by the end of the week; it takes a month to train a dog.
Manager: OK, then have this wolf trained by the end of the week for the interim, and train the dog next month.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: OK, then have this wolf trained by the end of the week for the interim, and train the dog next month.
And while you're at it, make sure you train the wolf to meow like a cat.
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Marc Clifton wrote: make sure you train the wolf to meow like a cat.
That will take a month to do.
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Slacker007 wrote: That will take a month to do.
Naah - it will only take a couple of days to fully freeze it solid in an industrial freezer. Then you run it through the band saw and meeeooooow!
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Now if only he had asked for you to put a diaper on the dog until it was trained. That would be more reasonable.
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No no no, no time to train me to do that. Not even with a "Dummies' Guide to Diapering Dogs" and a long weekend.
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I am sure it's something 4 developers can do in a week!  
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At which point he hires three script kiddies to be trained as well.
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I need an installation CDROM for this old operating system.
Do you know of any legal way to get it?
Thank you all!
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I don't think so. The software is out in the wild, but I would be careful with any of the sites that are offering this.
Question, is there a reason you need this old version? Updating to the new version is not going to work for you?
Edit: If you can, get them on Windows 7, then slowly migrate them to Windows 10 when you can, if the app(s) will let you. Windows 7 end of life (extended) is sometime in 2020, I think.
modified 26-Nov-18 13:55pm.
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Slacker007 wrote: Updating to the new version is not going to work for you?
Updating to the latest version hardly works for anyone.
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Works fine for me. I use it professionally 8-10 hours a day, 5-6 days a week. Same goes for the latest version of VS2017.
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Don't confuse Mark with facts. 
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Who needs facts? Bitching is so much more fun!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Slacker007 wrote: is there a reason you need this old version? Updating to the new version is not going to work for you?
Hi Slacker007!
Well, old industrial PC with old software that works using hardware IO cards that work using the old IO/driver system...
Anything newer won't work without a huge update...
And considering the customer doesn't has the source code of the applications that run there...
Definitely it is out of consideration upgrading that.
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he asked for a windows 2000 embedded sp3, that is a distinctive OS. it has nothing to do with your suggestions.
> Question, is there a reason you need this old version? Updating to the new version is not going to work for you?
do you guys get paid to always answer like this when someone is asking for a software your boss does not prefer?
Edit: no! you can, get on windows 7, then slowly migrate to windows 10 when you can, if the app(s) will let you. windows 7 end of life is totally irrelevant to someone who wants win2k, i think.
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Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Slacker007 wrote: Windows 7 end of life (extended) is sometime in 2020, I think.
The start of the year actually, mainstream versions only get the first patch Tuesday of the year (January 14, 2020). Enterprise versions can have 3 more years of increasingly expensive (was hundreds/pc/year for XP) paid patching. Embedded versions have their own longer support life cycles based on when they were released but generally in the mid 2020's. For a really scary thought the last embedded XP versions still have a few months of support left.  
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If you, or someone else has an MSDN subscription, you probably can download it as an .ISO image.
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that is a great idea if MS still has it as an offering with MSDN.
Edit: just checked my msdn subscription and I did not see it listed.
modified 26-Nov-18 14:47pm.
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Windows 2000 Embedded SP3 I wasn't aware that one existed! When I worked on industrial control systems it was WinXPe was the go to, wasn't aware of Win 2000 embedded...
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Until a bit over 2 years ago, part of my job was generating data files to be used by an NT4 embedded system.
The end user of the system is only 75% through procuring replacements (give or take how current the wikipedia data is); so the last of the systems in the field will still probably be around for another year or three. IIRC when I left my old job the ETA for full replacement was supposed to be 2020; but even for a boring well functioning program like the P-8A Poseidon, I'd not be surprised if it's shifted by at least a year one way or the other due to the perversities of Congress.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on oneβs own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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