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Inkjet printers are probably still cheaper to run than colour laser printers though.
The toner cartridges were very expensive last time I looked. The ones that come with the printer are only partially filled with toner so beware of that.
My HP all-in-one OfficeJet 7500 has been good but I'm sure it does use more ink cleaning the heads than actually ends up on the paper.
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Took your advice some time back when I had the same issues Cannon Colour Laser 390, just find the right page and when it wants a replacement imaging cartridge you can fool it with a 10K resistor and keep using the same one! Cheap! 
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Be grateful you're not working on one of mine: Kodak Prosper 6000[^]. Full color front/back at 600x600 resolution, printing 17 feet of paper per second. Performing a printhead clean can use over a liter of ink.
Of course, our printheads are a wee bit more expensive than those in your desktop inkjet.
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Yep, same here. bought a cheap samsung laser colourjet ( C430W ) about a year ago and used it a few times since then. It always works straight of the bat no matter how long it has been since I used it last time. Best investment ever.
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Hah! You and Rick both bought ... the one I just ordered!
But I've just realised that all my special papers (210, 220, 255 gsm, in photo glossy / matte, and gloss-matte double sided, plus my Avery label sheets) are inkjet coated ... and I need to get new papers. Sod it! 
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Never throw anything away, Griff
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Ahhh, no problems there because I have nothing but plain vanilla A4 printing/copier paper. I rarely print anything on special paper, I usually watch photographs on my 60" Sharp television, another really good investment.
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I mostly use photo card to do custom Birthday / Christmas / Get well soon cards, instead of buying mass produced crap that shows no real care or interest in the other person.
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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In that case you will do very well with the CW430 once you get your new paper. I have only done a few trial prints on plain vanilla paper and was quite impressed with the quality of those prints. Maybe not as good as a high quality inkjet printer but still pretty good.
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Hah! You and fd9370 both bought ... the one I just ordered!
But I've just realised that all my special papers (210, 220, 255 gsm, in photo glossy / matte, and gloss-matte double sided, plus my Avery label sheets) are inkjet coated ... and I need to get new papers. Sod it!
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Yep, I made the mistake to use inkjet photo paper in my brand new laser printer once, it seemed unrepairable damage had been done, but amazingly after a couple of prints everything was fine again !
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Yeah, inkjet printers were previously a constant source of annoyance for me. Some were simply DOA. With the others, I seldom printed and was still (somehow) forever running out of ink.
I abandoned inkjets about four years back in favor of a color laser printer from Brother. It was one of the best decisions I ever made.
Since changing, I've never have any problems and, four years later, only the black toner is noticeably depleted. Even it still has about 25% left!
Way back, when inkjets first came out, I had a nice HP model. It seemed to work fine.
Each brand and model I've purchased since has gotten progressively worse, with cheaper and cheaper build qualities. In my opinion, they've become scam products solely designed to make you endlessly purchase ink.
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I swore off inkjets years ago, but made a special case last year when I came across one for $100 that could print directly on CD/DVD (none of those lousy stickers). It lasted me long enough that I've just now ordered a ridiculous number of spare cartridges from China for $20 or so. Won't be a big loss if they turn out to be crap.
As for color laser - I bought mine for $100 about 5 years ago, and still haven't run out of toner. A co-worker bought 3 at the same time - he figured it's cheaper to buy spare printers, run through the toner, and then ebay them as is.
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We live in the land of 2ond home owners. They fly south for winter. Every spring they come back and the phone rings. "I can't print" (there is so much etc after that, that I'll spare you)
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OriginalGriff wrote: Probably my own fault - I don't print often enough
This is certainly not something that you should be assuming responsibility for.
If a printer requires that you print a certain number of pages per day/week, then it is not suitable for home use, and is therefore not fit for purpose, so should be kicked off the market.
Home printers must be built so that they can lie dormant at room temperature for weeks and even months, without printing anything (I sometimes don't use mine for over a year). It's a basic, fundamental requirement of the product -- like a knife must have a sharp bit.
Name and shame, so that other home printer users don't get stuck with the same turkey.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Name and shame, so that other home printer users don't get stuck with the same turkey.
A better idea is "is there one that doesn't dry out?"
All the ones I've tried do ... but I don't buy HP due to the "HOW MUCH?" factor when looking at cartridge costs, along with the "throw it away despite the yellow and magenta being full" factor.
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I've got an epson, at the moment (= roughly the last five years), and I've never had that problem with it.
Considering how much printer makers screw you for cartridges, expecting them to be hermetically sealed is not too much to ask, IMO.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Hi All,
I am working on a very, very time critical project (one of the reasons I have not been an active member recently) and Thursday was picked as the day the M$ two form factor authentication came into force for us. We were told originally that it would not affect us as we tend to use desktop and a hardwired network. I did try but not having a direct dial phone caused issue, having to use my personal mobile didn't seem like a good idea, I was not overly worried as I am on a different network (the Dev Network) to the general Admin... So that's OK not an issue I am told. Come Thursday bang! nothing works I end up having to hack around the system using my personal smart phone to download some authentication app to allow me to do work. So to make the system more secure, I have to use personal equipment to verify the set up that is hardwired is valid ?
I have done proper security work (with people with guns nearby) this was a farce! all it did was put a late running project, further back, mind you we have a good excuse.
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That's a very big problem in expansion. A lot of people thing that making it annoyingly complicated to work is actually called security.   
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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so what happens if you work at one of those places where you're not allowed to bring a mobile phone in?
Last place that told me I had to use my own phone I told them only if they pay for it. They caved.
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Looks like no repercussions from your blunt email last week. That's good.
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Get an error on screen saying 'ERROR: Function failed, log file is at xyz/blah blah blah.log'
Go and open it and all it says is 'ERROR: Function failed, log file is at xyz/blah blah blah.log'!
Whats the fecking point!
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Whats the fecking point!
To save it for eternity! It is such a beauty...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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