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OriginalGriff wrote: No need to poke it with a stick
Me either.
OriginalGriff wrote: scrabble around for drivers,
There are no Linux drivers.
OriginalGriff wrote: resort to arcane command lines.
Unless you're running a server version of Windows.
OriginalGriff wrote: No need to recompile the kernel,
Here either. But you can if you want/need to.
OriginalGriff wrote: re-educate Herself,
No need here either because FireFox and Thunderbird work the same as they did in Windows (and Linux Thunderbird even uses our old Windows Thunderbird profiles), and Libre Office lets her do her spreadsheet stuff (and that's the same as Office as well). All I had to do was make her legacy documents available and tell her where they were.
OriginalGriff wrote: find some way to run applications that have worked faultlessly for years...
You mean the stuff like Visual Studio? Faultlessly? VirtualBox to the rescue.
OriginalGriff wrote: Just thought I'd mention it. 
Back at ya, cupcake. 
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
modified 6-Jan-19 8:09am.
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As it is weekend there try an update a Win 7 machine to Win 10 - while working on it (Yes - did it two weeks ago moving from Fedora 27 to 29 without interruption)...
As today the only thing Linux has no - for developers - is VS...
Granted - there are lot of issues with Linux for not-technical persons that makes it a no-go, but for our kind it is much better, IMHO...
No need for drivers research, no need for command line (but it is actually pretty nice to work with - similar to writing code)...
On the other hand - herself's computer runs W10 now and she can not change the resolution/font-size, because a years old tax-related software (based on Access)...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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OriginalGriff wrote: Nothing to report.
Which is to be expected on Windows; but if you're moving to another OS, you're bound to run into things. Always a good idea to look beyond your comfort-zone
..and quite happy there is no-one posting about their iOS weekend 
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yup, get in there with the millions of windows users that shutting down to go to bed think to themselves, "will it still boot tomorrow?"
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Linux is for consenting adults.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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theoldfool wrote: Linux is for consenting adults
...with an outsider subsequently asking "you agreed to what"??
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Windows is great; it's all the other stuff.
Check Task Manager and see what's running in the background ... with multiple instances.
All internet browsers are pigs.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
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Nothing to report.
But I do have a 500gb nVME drive sitting here without a way to use it until Tuesday...
EDIT (for OG ) ===============================
This whole Linux migration thing started in (late) September 2018 when I got my new laptop (because I absolutely refuse to use Win10 at home), and yes, there were some bumps and bruises along the way. However, I only have one Windows VM for Windows dev work, dvd ripping, and maybe for turbo tax if SWMBO decides she doesn't want to do our taxes on the web. Here we are, about 3-1/2 months later, and we're finally fully migrated, including seven desktop machines, three laptops, a NUC, and three Raspberry Pi's.
This is the first weekend since I started this that I didn't have to do anything to address an issue regarding Linux. I'm feeling pretty good about that. I hope to never do it again.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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So which would you say comes out the cheapest, in terms of time + real money?
a) dealing with Linux's idiosyncrasies
b) Windows license + its own idiosyncrasies
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Linux, by far.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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And I find it hard to disagree, at least in principle, once you're past its initial setup - with a caveat.
I have a lot more experience working out the kinks in Windows than Linux; I know I can expect X amount of time babysitting Windows in a given week or month. Linux, not so much. So long as it keeps going and doesn't fall flat on its face, that's all time saved. But when Linux goes south, I have a much harder time figuring out what's wrong and how to fix anything. I've lost count of the number of times I just recreated a Linux VM from scratch rather than getting to the bottom of a problem (but that's probably because I mostly use various distributions to tinker with, and don't have anything terribly valuable running on them so there's really nothing to reinstall/configure).
I have to think someone equally knowledgeable with either OS would pick Linux, given its assumed ability to "just work". Personally I'm not there yet.
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For the most part it "just works", but so does Windows. I especially like that Linux just works with my video card and dual monitor setup. I didn't have to do anything additional to it. However, if you're using a laptop and wireless, there are issues that require you to seek assistance. Of the three laptops I have, only one is usable on a wireless connection. The other two (6-8 years old), not at all, but that can be remedied with a USB wireless dongle.
If you're not a Windows desktop app dev, spending money on Windows is a waste of resources and dollars (IMHO).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: If you're not a Windows desktop app dev, spending money on Windows is a waste of resources and dollars (IMHO).
I've never thought of it that way, but you may be on to something. I've seen plenty of very smart people get stuck with Windows, and it just may be that you have to be intimately familiar with its internals to even speculate what might be the source of problems in a lot of cases - otherwise you may very well find yourself going down the wrong rabbit hole. Whereas to keep a Linux system going, you might only need to be able to google for the right thing. This almost sounds counterintuitive, but my perspective has to be undeniably tainted.
I've been mostly shielded from Linux hardware compatibility problems because of the fact that most of my Linux instances are VMs - so the virtualized hardware always appears the same, and by now, well-known to most distributions. My experienced on real hardware varies however. I had to give up on the idea of converting an old Atom-based system of mine to Linux, because I couldn't find a distribution that recognizes its onboard video (Nvidia Ion) and provide hardware video acceleration (desperately needed for 1080p), whereas getting that to work on Windows was as straightforward as it could be. Sad, because that's this particular machine's only job (it's hooked up to my projector), and I'm getting more p*ssed with Windows's performance on it with each iteration.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: his is the first weekend since I started this that I didn't have to do anything to address an issue regarding ...
shhhh, don't say that too loudly, as a total computer geek the rellies, friends, in and out-laws will want you around to help them fix up their PC still broken by the last w10 upgrade degrade
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I've started using SWMBO (the words, not the acronym) in casual conversation. It's amazing how many guys know exactly what you mean  .
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Try "RCH"...
It's been scientifically proven to be a reference to the smallest measurable distance, or width.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Not sure what's in your fridge? Problem solved!
FridgeCam | The connected kitchen - a new way to start your day Smarter[^]
So ... every time you close the fridge it takes a picture which you can look at on your mobile. So your SO can see that you had a midnight snack and ate his / her yoghurt, or - if your fridge is anything like mine - can't see bugger all because it's full.
And as for the "start your day Smarter" bit ... walk to the kitchen - you were there anyway to make the coffee - open the door. Look. Go "Oh, it's full of food" or "Oh, I need to get milk". And save yourself £150 ...
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Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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THOMAS!
So many companies really do appear to be at the point where they haven't got a clue what to make, with this new tech, so they're just jumping on the stupidest ideas that the noisiest (and therefore probably least talented) people in the company come up with.
But if you think this is bad now, wait until there are 150 million poorly-trained AIs floating around -- those lacking in human intelligence will really go to town.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'm ready for my vegetable recognition software to finally find a home!
I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart
I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!
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How do you tell apart cucumber, avocado and zucchini?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Why would you want to? Everyone knows that the only vegetable eaten by Real MenTM is the potato 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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And chillies. Don't forget the chillies.
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Lot of these seem to address first world problems.......the recent boom in smartphones and apps and platforms like android and ios ..making it easy to monetize ...Useless IoT items...
https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/6/18170575/kohler-konnect-bathroom-smart-gadgets-numi-intelligent-toilet-ces-2019
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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That's just what I want a "fully immersive experience" in my toilet. Who writes the blurb for these things?
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Good luck Amazon trying to recognise and translate some of those voices ... 
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Never throw anything away, Griff
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