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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: trying to get it so it can't be seen from space
Software Zen: delete this;
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OP said 2017 but I read it as 2019 because I just installed 2019 and it has those annoying popup features.
I think he meant 2019.
I had used 2017 for many months and it doesn't have those popups. I think OP just said wrong version?? 
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Ahh, that could be.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Some of these things have a "don't show this again" option,
and others you have to go into some rules or settings to turn them off.
But it's like swotting flies, as soon as you whack one a couple more turn up.
Dunno who'se behind this crap, but seems the evelotion of vs goes something like:
vs2010 - do a few things but do them pretty well
vs2013 - do a more then a few things, but some only averagely
vs2015 - do even more things, ran out of time (2017 came up) so left half done
vs2017 - do a boat load of stuff but only half- assed, don't fix anything, just add even more
vs2019 - pre-releases / announcements indicate goal is to find out how much that puppy will hold
oh, vscode starting to go down the same path, ... I tried it, I really tried hard, nah.
I'm sure it'll be fine for the hobby devs and some juniors, but for serous work, nah.
When you want a "Swiss army knife" you buy the real thing, not some knockoff. ms and multi-os-multi-language, heck just ms and linux - again maybe fine for beginners but not for anyone with proper ability.
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Am I the only one bothered by the frequency of the "releases"?
Are they real improvements? Or are they just Marketing ploys to boost sales?
How much is just fluff and glitz?
Tired of sprinting to keep up....
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Lopatir - you nailed the assessment of the Visual Studio versions. Not to mention that each new version is more cloud connected meaning that the tool is slower with every release as it waits to check in with the mothership at Redmond every time it starts.
I miss the days when everything you needed from an IDE was on your hard drive. IDE, Compiler, Help files, Samples, Etc. Yes help can get stale, but that is the time to connect to the internet not every login.
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Notice that things started going sideway when they took away our MDI interface (which happend when they went to WPF for the IDE).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Hey, you were warned that the ms designers and devs who made travesties of windows and ms office would be "working their magic" on VS, so don't sound surprised that it's started turning to sh1t.
And it will get worse before it gets and never get better.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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raddevus wrote: win10 Phone (which doesn't exist)
Mine still works fine.  Any others here?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Raises hand
Yes, and unlike all of my Android devices, it still gets regularly patched, despite being "dead" (and Android supposedly leading).
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Oh, I didn't see you there in the back.
You are consolation prize Winner of the Official No-Prize.
Please stand still while it is shipped to you. Our shipping dept often gets lost.
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My Win10 phone is all the consolation I need. :-p
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Up untill a month ago I was still using a win 8.1 phone.
It finally died after 5 years so was forced to buy a new phone ...
Tom
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Tom Deketelaere wrote: It finally died after 5 years so was forced to buy a new phone ...
It took it 5 years to die? Total garbage!! If it were iPhone it would've slowed down to the point where you couldn't have used it 3 years ago. Thus enabling you to have an excuse to buy new technology.
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kmoorevs wrote: Mine still works fine.
We have our official No-Prize Winner!
We have your details and if you are reading this it is too late to cancel shipment.
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Not done until it doesn't work on Win 7
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Quote: Ha! Ha! Said the clown, has the king lost his crown
Is the night being tight on romance
Ha! Ha! Said the clown, is it bringing you down
That you've lost your chance
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RickZeeland wrote: Ha! Ha! Said the clown, has the king lost his crown...
What programming language is that?
Haiku-thon?
Visual Basipoetry?
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I have it (VS 2017) installed but rarely use it as VS 2010 still handles most of my needs, is stable and starts blazingly fast...and to think, I'm missing out on all these new features!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Oh, wait, I think he meant 2019. I didn't even notice either, but I was using 2017 with none of this and it is only since I installed 2019 that I see this junk.
Oops, he posted 2017 and I followed along thinking 2019, 2019, 2019.... 
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VS 2010 is still my favorite as well. Only downside is it does not connect to the newer versions of SQL so you cannot debug stored procs from SQL > 2012. Other than that it is much faster than any of the newer versions.
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I still like 2008 the best, myself, but I moved to 2017 a year or so ago. Doesn't seem inordinately distracting, maybe the OP is talking the 2019 version (as others have said).
If you think hiring a professional is expensive, wait until you hire an amateur! - Red Adair
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Not seen 2019 yet, but when first started 2017 all the methods had weird spacing and text above them. I never wrote anything there.
Also the line numbers had spaces in them. 30 31, big gap 32 33??
Add Team Server repo, and even more text is added.
Googled wtf, found how to change to make smaller less intrusive.
But now find them very help.
Talking about method references, commit change notices and the like.
https://terabit.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Visual-Studio-768x480.png
2010 might have had these but can't remember.
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