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MS account. Nothing has varied from my sigin / sleep procedures. No setting changes. Nada. This was triggered by their update. While in sleep mode.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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PIN only happens on MS Accounts. You may have been lucky till now.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Why the fuss? I have one pin to sign in to Windows, and different pins for my bank and credit cards.
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It wouldn't let me sign in without setting one up.
Why do I object to someone "putting a lock on my own house"?
Or consider this: it wanted a new pin without me signing in ... in which case, "whose" pin is it?
No explanation, no "cancel" ... just a loop.
I have yet to make any sense of it ...
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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I'm with you.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Myself I actually like to turn my computers off when I am not using them.
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Working on a project that involve many components (code, images, text files, etc.). It's nice being able to come back to a session in that case.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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Gerry Schmitz wrote: It's nice being able to come back to a session in that case.
Virtual Machine stopped... main pc shut down 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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You must have a monster machine to run multiple copies of VS, Remote desktop, Visio, Netflix, Edge, FireFox, Paint.Net, Picture Viewer, Snippet, PDF Reader, Age of Empires, 3 monitors, .... in a VM.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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Gerry Schmitz wrote: Working on a project
I break my work up into small components. Makes everything easier.
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Assuming this is the same update that I applied to another PC here about an hour ago. It is restarting again for at least the 5th time...just watching the spinning dots for now at 75%....must be a major update.  It did give me the choice to put it off, but I had no idea it was going to take this long.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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"Up to and including version 9, Java only has two sorts of values - primitive types, and object references."
they have deliberately ceased passing by value of composite data types and they have forbid using any form of programming paradigm other than object oriented.
now they want and need to be able to compare composite data types by value and they will need to pass composite data types by value.
"[in Java]One consequence of this is that the object's identity would be lost, and values would be equal if and only if all their fields are equal. This would make values behave similarly to the primitive types - each copy of the value 42 does not have its own identity after all."
in fact by forbidding options for "our own good" they have made a great burden on all programmers, because they had such a great influence on the industry and academia, not by good deeds, but by advocating for their own benefit.
i'll quote Bjarne Stroustrup here - "[Java] It owes much of its initial popularity to the most intense marketing campaign ever mounted for a programming language. From its initial commercial debut onward, Java was marketed as radically different from, and better than, all other languages. Interestingly, Java was marketed to individuals at all organizational levels -- not just to programmers."
in a way you were forced to use Java, thus you were forced to complexity and fanaticism, verbosity too. now new languages like: Go, RUST are either procedural or like Kotlin allow you to program in that fashion.
sooner or latter those advocates of Java will preach that there are other ways than OOP, but they will not say to you at least "we are sorry for this burden". it will be just like those fanatics creating web pages that only work on IE6. they were the loudest criticizers of IE6 much latter.
brilliant intellects were wasted trying to solve problems the Java way. heavy tomes were written to support this. if you relocate enough talent and resources you will be able to solve problems even with Java. YES, you are not reading me wrong. "Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software" is a burden compared to "Principles of Program Design" by Jackson.
the most painful is maybe the fact that someone decided to make JavaScript too similar to Java and now JS is crippled forever as a functional programming language with this passing by reference. those are not the ways that map and filter work in a good FP language. delete an object from the source array of map or filter and you have destroyed it in the destination array.
it is time to let go of Javaism and enter a renaissance in programming.
whatever THEY do, how many versions of Java THEY write they will never make Java as good and powerful as simple programming languages that don't need a 1200+ pages volume to describe.
i am talking about the likes of: C, Component Pascal, LISP, Modula-2, Smalltalk, REBOL...
i'll just wait and C
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Glad I never touched Java.
OOP is fine for those parts of a system that benefit from it, but it should never be forced upon the other 95%.
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For me Java works very well for building Android apps. I don't really care about some language paradigm wars. I also like object oriented programming.
Try building an android app in C with the NDK and see if it's easier. That's what matters to me.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Urban Cricket wrote: Try building an android app in C with the NDK
Reminds me of the early 90s and Windows 3. The general opinion was that Windows apps could be developed only in C++.
Until Steve Gibson[^] went and proved that Assembly could be used to even better effect.
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Lol, really? Assembly. Yet most of the code out there is written in JavaScript. Because it's what needs to be done.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Surely not for Windows 3 apps.
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i have no problem in using Java from an utilitarian point of view. i have a problem with javaism.
you cannot build a native app on android with ease because you will be obstructed. the proces is hard and you are intentionaly discouraged.
even if C was the most elegant and succinct language of all it would have been hard to do things with the NDK.
everything that works on android is thanks to native .so libraries in C on top of linux kernel and you get the java android framework as a wraper and comunication layer to their C library endpoints.
for you to do something as a Java programmer on their compatible JVM on the Android system it first has to be done as a C library. it doesn't work the other way around.
think of the extra work on their side to make native so obfuscated that the artificial way of doing it is easier.
they have done it as hard as posible to use any other language than Java on android.
http://fabiensanglard.net/shmup_android/index.php
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It is true that the underlying code of the platform and most underlying libraries are written in C/C+, but unless you are on the Android team in Google you are better off using some rapid development tool like Java. There are no other alternatives, Kotlin with all due respect doesn't cut it.
If the boss comes to someone to write a validated form for some commerce website, people don't really start developing a new browser in C to do the job, they write some Javascript really.
Edit: Some of the best programmers I have seen were also very opinionated about languages and tools, but in they end they also had to do their actual jobs you know
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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certainly.
whatever does the job and is cost-effective is OK.
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sickfile wrote: "Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software" is a burden compared to "Principles of Program Design" by Jackson.
Hallelujah, Brother!
Whatever I'm working on, I find that knocking up a quick JSP diagram for it always helps -- it takes next no time, and it just gives you a workable structure to keep in mind.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Java? Talk to the hand![^]
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Not really sure what you point or points are?
sickfile wrote: and they have forbid using any form of programming paradigm other than object oriented
Huh? Java is an OO language, so of course that means you must do OO. How else would it work?
Maybe your point is you want to do functional programming? If so then use Scala. It is functional and it uses the Java VM. Of course the maintenance programmers will suffer for years afterwards when they must maintain it but that shouldn't matter to a true developer.
sickfile wrote: the most painful is maybe the fact that someone decided to make JavaScript too similar to Java and now JS
Not sure what that means but JavaScript has little relationship to Java. But again if this is some reference to functional programming then since functional programming had zero market share when JavaScript was created there would have been no models to base it on even if they wanted to. And given that wasn't their market driven goal anyway it wouldn't have happened.
sickfile wrote: as simple programming languages that don't need a 1200+ pages volume to describe.
I can only suppose that you are confusing "language" with "API" (library support). The Java "language" specification is not 1200 pages and the specification is the exact and sum total description of the "language".
On the other hand if you think you are going to create a modern business enterprise solution using nothing but a single functional programming language and not use one external library then I wish you good luck. But myself I don't want my stock options to be based on a strategy like that which will never work.
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java will collapse under its own weight.
you cannot build something good by forbidding. it has been shown in various processes and in management too.
you have built a "cargo cult" out of your object oriented premise and banned every other creative thought, not just within yourself but you have used your influence (Sun and Oracle) to do that into the academia and the industry. now you want JavaScript distorted with classes just so that you won't feel ashamed when you have to switch from Java to JS.
soon you will find yourself in a dead end and you will need techniques which are contradictory with your primal dogma. you will try to adjust Java and thus it will crumble under it's own weight.
like in the biological evolution, in IT older languages don't suffer this specialization. C and Pascal are not equally well suited for OOP or FP vs newer languages, but they are not hindering the respective philosophies.
Pascal fanatics tried to forbid GOTO, but many experienced C programers showed that GOTO has it's purposes. they have shown that GOTO intrinsically is not the problem.
and at the end, my point from the very first post.
you have input data, you transform it and you have output data.
there are no objects in the equation.
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