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I am really keen to try VS2019.... (particularly WPF with .NET Core)
But, I really don't want to face the "you have to uninstall everything manually, it will only takes 753,567 hours of hard work, googling, registry hacking" problem....
They stress that it can work side by side with VS2017, i.e. they want to make it easy to use without impacting your system negatively..., but it's not very obvious if they intend the final release to be an easy update to the preview builds, or not.
Anyone has any idea on that?
Come to think of it, I'd like to try that at home and I might have HyperV installed on my home machine.. should check that out, I guess...
[EDIT | CLARIFICATION]
I am wondering if the update
from VS2019 preview 2 -> to VS2019 final release is gong to be problematic. Or not.
It's all about VS2019 itself.. not what I use it for...
And I asked because last time I tried.. (granted that might have been VS 8 or 11?), I had plenty of garbage preview framework left over and I was in installation / DLL hell for a while...
Also had problem with .NET Core 2 preview... There was some (preview) left over dependency I couldn't remove when upgrading to final release of .NET Core 2.0
modified 26-Feb-19 20:49pm.
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VS2019 should run parrallel with VS2017 with no problems. Even after preview.
VS2012, 2013, 2015, and 2017 all run parrallel to each other now as it is.
So, no worries there.
Anyone who says otherwise is full of crap.
Noted, the uninstall manually scenario is only for cases where you need to uninstall the app for some reason. But you should not need to uninstall anything if you are installing VS 2019.
Now if for some reason you encounter all kinds of problems and you cause a rip in the space time continuum, then I can not help you, and I will automatically become a figment of your imagination.
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You misunderstood I think....
What if I install VS2019-preview2
Then VS2019 (public official release) come out, will I be able to upgrade from preview to final with hitch?
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I would think that the VS 2019 install would stay the same regardless if it is Preview 2 or 234. same goes for when it goes to release.
You know, if this really bothers you, you can reach out to Microsoft for an answer, or query their Community forums too. You would get a more precise answer than in the Lounge.
With that said, I think you should be fine. I would not worry.
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I know of no VS RTM version that has ever correctly cleaned up all previously installed preview version files.
Install it in a VM. When the final version comes out, roll everything back or start a new VM. No trace of any preview release guaranteed. Why are people still worrying about this?
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Well... one need a VM... Virtual Box is not working very well for me... :/
But no matter, I might have a ready to go HyperV VM I forgot about, gotta check it out tonight...
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As long as your CPU supports hardware virtualization (it may be turned off by default in your BIOS), Hyper-V should work fine. Assuming you have the RAM for it.
I'm all-in when it comes to VMs. I practically have nothing installed on my host; I have everything running in VMs.
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or create a restore point/backup before installing...
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Ever since almost a decade ago MS released a few VS previews with broken installs and told everyone to reload their OS I've refused to install any pre-release MS products. If they'd responded to community outrage by defenestrating the PMs involved from a 10th story window and released working uninstallers at the time I might've been willing to relent; but they didn't and at this point the bridge is a mass of radioactive rubble at the bottom of the river and the site is too poisoned to allow rebuilding for generations.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Davies said: The brain is the one example we have of truly intelligent computation
He must know people that I don't know.
But he's giving a straw-man argument.
No-one ever said that backpropagation mimics the brain (or if they did, they were misinformed).
Nothing we do in AI mimics the brain; none of the AI methodologies -- not even his Holy Grail neural networks, which a lot of poorly informed people have declared as mimicking the brain.
The brain works with what is easiest defined as "highly compressed and merged 3D movies with smells and other sensory records attached". We don't have anything of artifice that can even come close to processing brain-level quantities of such data feeds -- Hell, we don't even have data of that kind, let alone the capacity to process it!
So he's just talking the usual "what I'm doing is perfect, and what everyone who doesn't do what I'm doing is inferior!" bollocks.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Agreed.
If it was about natural intelligence he might have a point.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: No-one ever said that backpropagation mimics the brain (or if they did, they were misinformed).
"Deep learning" implies actual learning. If it is measuring successes and keeping score, than I'd have to agree that learning is not the most ideal term to use.
--edit
I'm not seeking you out, before you get that idea. You simply had a good argument that I wanted to reply to 
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the only way is to teach these engineers farming or fishing ....
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
For f**** sake, just stop with the freaking technology abuse!!!
I agree. Cars are just as bad. Too much technological crap that breaks and is too expensive to repair.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Because it is so difficult to reach down and use a button isnt it.
In America yes. We are too fat. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
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Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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I thought phones had to be switched off during flights ?
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Not since a while.
Officially you should set them in airplane mode at take off and landing; I suspect 99% of the phones are still open anyway.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Okay, I am not flying that often. This was a rubbish rule anyway, so...
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On private planes that is not a requirement and I know of no incidents ever caused by a cellular phone on an airplane. I fly on our corporate planes occasionally and I have seen pilots in the cockpits on their phones. We get no service at altitude so I'm not sure what they were doing.
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Rick York wrote: We get no service at altitude so I'm not sure what they were doing.
Playing Candy Crush?  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: Playing Candy Crush?
Better than flying! 
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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Marketing wrote: and it will even tell passengers when they need to drink water.
Humans have a built-in sensor for that, known as "thirst".
..and water? Do I look like a plant or a pet?
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