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...these news sites...
And why you expect they have the capabilities to deliver all for free?
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: And why you expect they have the capabilities to deliver all for free?
Selling cookies.
So why is there still a need to sell ads? I wouldn't mind a single short ad, as the news-service here does, but most sites are stuffing in as much as they can get.
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That argument only holds if the ads have an effect - i.e. they make me spend money on some service or product. If I am presented for a hundred ads in, say, Thai, it is just a waste of bits and pixels - it makes no sense to me. It is just garbage. So I want it off my screen.
Same with US companies selling US products/services on the US market: Even though I can read the English words, I would never have any reason to react to the ad. So it is garbage, in a similar way.
You could say "But the news site gets paid for throwing a pile of garbage on your doorstep" - it is none of their business that it is of no intererst to you". Nevertheless, all that garbage annoys me. I can't even consider it product/market "information"; it is not avilable to me.
My reactions to "relevant" ads are quite different from all those irrelvant ads. Proposals like "People who bought that product you are looking at, also bought so-and-so" may actually be fine.
Also, I think paying for access to news articles is fine. But I see references to at least fifty different news sites a day, maybe a hundred over a week. I cannot pay a hundred subscriptions! But if there was some sort of syndication, maintaining a single account for me, and whenever I read an article on one of the syndicated news sites, a small amount (half a USD? one USD for in-depth articles?) would be charged to this account. But I see not traces of such a mechanism coming up.
But I ask myself: Why don't we have browsers that pretend (to the web site) that they show the ads, but simply "forget" to display them on the screen? It would certainly be technically possible to return exactly the same response to the web site, whether the ad was displayed or not.
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if you are talking about overlays you can use behind the overlay addon to disable it
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/behindtheoverlay/ljipkdpcjbmhkdjjmbbaggebcednbbme
on chrome
Caveat Emptor.
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That works for some but more and more sites have gotten wise to the tactic. Instead they load a single screen's worth of content so it LOOKS like the real article and then slap an overlay on the top. If you disable the overlay (or just delete it using dev tools in Chrome) you discover that the rest of the content was never actually provided.
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javascript switcher to switch off.... js.... such sites usually i conclude are not worth it and just close it ...
Caveat Emptor.
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I have so many items in my hosts file that some sites refuse to load as a result. I'm constantly renaming that file to _hosts, using the web site, and then renaming it back to hosts to block other stuff that may come along. Not ideal but it suffices.
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This site : Blocking Unwanted Connections with a Hosts File[^] has tools, batch files, and powershell files to help manage the hosts file.
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I'd never use an ad blocker. If a site is free, the ads are paying for it.
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You could consider one like ABP, the have a policy for acceptable ads[^] that I think is pretty reasonable.
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I just CBF. Ads don't bother me.
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I think ads have a place however there is a point where, for me,they make a site unreadable.
Flashing, moving brightly coloured ads on the left and right of a screen when I am trying to read text in the centre of the screen makes it impossible for me to take in any information. Quite literally I am unable to read some pages as I am unable to filter out the ads(particularly animated/video ads) down the sides of the pages.
It's a bit like how I am unable to concentrate in noisy offices or when people are loudly banging their cereal bowls in the office.
Perhaps it's just me but a simple couple of ads at the top and perhaps bottom of a page is plenty and not distracting.
So I use an ad blocker not to remove reasonable ad displays but to remove what, to exaggerate a little, I consider a form of visual abuse.
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I don't look at the sort of pages that do those. The one thing I find is sometimes I click a social media site and it comes up insisting I won an iPhone, then I just close it and walk away
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Christian Graus wrote: I don't look at the sort of pages that do those.
If by social media you mean Facebook, I don't think I have opened a Facebook page for around a year.
Some business sites have adopted this spam you with adverts philosophy and unfortunately sometimes the articles are interesting but ruined by those ads.
However from what you are saying it sounds like you too have what I would call a reasonable expectation of how ads should be used.
I use an adblocker not to block those sites that have an ad at the top or bottom of the page, but to block those sites that are littered with ads.
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― Christopher Hitchens
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I know what you mean - one of the "nice things" about uBlock is that it tells you how many ads it removed: For CP that would be low (I whitelist, but I'm guessing two or three per page) but when the counter gets over twenty there is no way I'll whitelist - I'll just go elsewhere, it's not as if they are the only site with the material. And a high number indicates a much higher interest in "me as advert consumer" than "them as information provider".
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Yeah, I just don't read those sites  Once I see those ads, I know the page was written to encourage clicks, not to tell me something true
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A lot of those sites will also assume you're using an ad-blocker if you disable JavaScript. I just wish there were some way to make those sites not show up in search results.
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Marc Clifton wrote: We need a blocker for the "you're using an ad-blocker!"
Also for the popup "XYZ wants to send you notifications. Allow Block".
Almost every website you visit starts with this BS.
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I think the latest versions of the browsers allow you to disable this.
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Any browser that doesn't allow you to disable notifications shouldn't be used.
Major security-risk stuff.
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I may need to update my browsers then because I do not see it.
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Mozilla-based browsers have a "Dismiss the overlay" plug-in, which kills most of them.
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ABP has a filter list specifically to block that crap.
Known Adblock Plus subscriptions you want:
ABP filters
Specialization: Removes circumvention ads in Adblock Plus
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@Forogar and I were having a chat about unintended programming features (ahem) due to things like:
Javascript's truthy:
"1" == 1 is true
Rexx:
" Hello " == "Hello" and 0.0 == 0 is not the same as 0 == 0.0
SQL:
Len("hello") = Len("hello ")
I'm just wondering what other family favourites there are out there.
(Edited because clearly I’ve lost track of what’s up and what’s down)
cheers
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modified 18-Apr-19 9:27am.
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