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What if you had to get a new hard drive, and thus, no OS, and thus, no internet connection?
It's cool if they want to consume 8gb on a hard drive for a recovery partition, but that plan falls apart in the scenario described above.
I went to the dell site, and it looks like she can order some sort of recovery media, but that's up to her.
I still say Linux is her best bet, given her lack of income.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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#realJSOP wrote: Well, I can't because she didn't want to fork out $180 for a stand-along copy of Win10 (and I don't blame her).
If the system doesn't come with its own set of recovery discs, it probably includes a utility to burn your own. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a number of discs for the OS itself, and then an "Apps and drivers" disc.
If you don't install any of those apps from the last disc, and only selectively install the drivers that Device Manager can't automatically detect/setup, you may end up with a relatively clean system. The bloatware generally comes from that last disc.
Of course, YMMV--I can't stress this enough. If the bundled utility only lets you create "recovery discs" that don't discriminate between the OS and Dell's add-ons and drivers, you'll only end up with the same pre-installed bloatware problem. Depends on how much time you're willing to spend on this.
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i just turn all that off during the install, and it works great.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Laptop. OS pre-installed. No opportunity to turn anything off. Only real solution is to abandon Windows. Sister won't do that.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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i hear you. With old win2k builds i could hack the OEM installer and remove garbage from the install partition. I don't know how on win10
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Seems like enterprise W10-laptops are a lot less bloated. Dunno how get (or afford) them...
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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I put WoW on a laptop without issue. I don't see how this has anything to do with the laptop itself or Windows 10. (Of course, if it's something big, I make sure the laptop is on a wired connection.)
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I was only mentioning WoW because it took so long to download - 58gb in 6 hours.
I was only mentioning Win10 because I decided I have every right to hate Win10.
I didn't want the laptop on a wired connection. The wireless stuff is segregated from the wired subnet in the interest of security.
The laptop itself is pretty nice, and would be an even better experience running Linux.
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Sister came over and she ran through some WoW play. Her old laptop was giving here 18fps with moderately low detail turned on, and the new laptop gives her 60fps with everything on High. She's happy, so mission accomplished.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Hey, what happened to the other JSOP? He would have just used the laptop for target practice.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Oh, I have her old one, and just for that purpose.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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#realJSOP wrote: it took six hours to download WoW. Just... wow
I USED TO HAVE AN OLD ,ODEM, TOO!
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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The humble favicon[^]
17 different sizes and over 2 dozen ways to specify a specific use case for a favicon.
For an icon. That will appear in the browser tab (and a couple of other places, sure).
I'm just glad we don't have this many front end Javascript frameworks.
Oh, right. I see...
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Github is down here, so I cannot enjoy your linky!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Strange: "IsUp.me" says Github is up, but I can't get in either.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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16x16x16, the only size that matters.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Oh gawd: 3D browsers, with 3D JS frameworks ... the horror, the horror ... 
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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16 pixels wide, 16 pixels high, 16 colors.
Not 3D, no animations. Just a static picture for quick identification (as intended, before the marketing-department started to "design" icons).
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Just display it with your 3D printer.
Next we'll need a 3D touch screen!
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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3D YouTube videos might be a touch slow frame rate ... 
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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There is nothing wrong with Web Development!
The problem is with those fancy developers, who think that UI/UX matters and get involved with icons/colors/images and other black-magic...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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UI "design principle" comes to mind. If something takes time, add an animation.
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I wouldn't say that. The web development world seems pretty messed up to me. Endless frameworks, all of them hobbled by the limitations of the browser environment and DOM. Most folks just using Bob or Jane's module manager to download a hundred modules that they know nothing about (and actually may not even know or care that they are downloading) and then letting us run that code on our systems.
Explorans limites defectum
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It seems I have to stick the  icon more frequently...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Chris Maunder wrote: favicon
That's where you problem begins - and where it could end. Why not just an icon - even a favorite other-image with an on-click event. Or any such diversion form being drowned in this metamorphosized bloat-ware.
Remember: You are the boss! Remember the awesome feeling of power when you determined that Bob should be naked! Recapture the moment!
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