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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Coffee and smoking are acquired tastes; you have to persevere to learn to like it. It's good that you don't
It's stupid that you do!
People tell me "I didn't like my first beer/cigarette either" SO WHY TAKE A SECOND!? 
"Here's something that I know is bad for me (and costs a lot of money), let's put effort into using it."
And then there's society "This is bad for you, but we're still going to pressure you into using it because we were stupid enough to do it too."
People are weird 
Eddy Vluggen wrote: No to maggots, cockroaches and rats. Not as food, not as company.
What did maggots and cockroaches ever do to you? 
Unless you've been attacked by Slipknot fans (who are called maggots by the band) 
Eddy Vluggen wrote: C'mon, no alcohol, no smokes, no meats, no coffee. If the doctor told me that, I'd ask for anti-depressants.
I don't feel like I'm missing anything
Ok, a few glasses of alcohol is nice to get loose, so I do that from time to time.
No smelly breath and clothes sounds fine.
I like the meat replacements better (and some even taste like meat).
I could really use coffee, I'm not a morning person, I sometimes mix it with hot chocolate, but coffee really tastes bad.
I'd ask for anti-depressants if I HAD to use them
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Ask the barman for a small glass of "43".
Yeah, once drank half a bottle, fun night
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Sander Rossel wrote: It's stupid that you do!
I know it is in jest, but there are too many people who try to convince the other about the superiority of their own standpoint. I drank coffee as a kid, with lots of sugar and milk. Milk was being touted on TV as "the white engine" in those days, and sugar is simply a form of fuel.
Sander Rossel wrote: "Here's something that I know is bad for me (and costs a lot of money)
That's relative. I'm taking a lot of poisons, some over IV. Whatever keeps me moving, I'll take it.
Sander Rossel wrote: What did maggots and cockroaches ever do to you?
People will eat even rats before they consider eating maggots. Those are a sign of decay, and there's a natural barrier to eating food that's gone wrong.
Sander Rossel wrote: I don't feel like I'm missing anything
I heard a priest make that claim once too, and I'm very happy to not be a priest. Technically, you may be missing a bit B12, but that's hardly a worry nowadays; just take a supplement.
Sander Rossel wrote: I could really use coffee, I'm not a morning person, I sometimes mix it with hot chocolate, but coffee really tastes bad.
Pretty sure Starbucks has something coffee-related for your sweet tooth If not, there's this german instant-coffee that tastes like hot sweet vanilla-chocolate milk. I forgot the name, but will post it as soon as I see the sign again.
Sander Rossel wrote: I like the meat replacements better (and some even taste like meat).
Meat is lots of calories with little to no fiber and a good idea for those who have trouble digesting stuff. Combine that with the perception that some meats are delicious, and we have two extremists preaching to another.
I made my own seitan last year. Simply using flour and a (mushroom) broth cube. Easy, cheap, and tasteful on the BBQ. Tasted just like meat would taste. So, my assumption that you are "missing out" may be simply wrong 
The taste of American style bacon is incredible; but so was the vegetarian pizza that a friend of mine made, and I haven't been able to come up with a better non-vegetarian version yet. No, didn't even contain fake meat, and I didn't miss the meat either.
Sander Rossel wrote: Yeah, once drank half a bottle, fun night
"Here's something that I know is bad for me (and costs a lot of money), let's put effort into using it." [...] People are weird "
It would be a lot less fun if we weren't weird 
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Coffee.
Lots of coffee. Haven't drunk a carbonated beverage for years.
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Never throw anything away, Griff
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Sugar?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I didn't know you cared, sweetie. 
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Never throw anything away, Griff
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Oh, don't go public with it please... not yet...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Go for 'Zero', you are already overweight. No that is not my speculation, you wrote that once in a post 
Btw: I take zero because of diabetes
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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That weight over the desired the reason I try to move away from Coke... As I'm pretty addict, I was thinking to go for Zero first, and then remove it totally...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Quote: and then remove it totally...
I don't see a reason to do this. But ok, if you like to do it, it is your choice.
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Sugar is pretty addictive, I have seen people try and quit and be in agony for days if not a whole month.
You can only beat an addiction with another (sadly). Try to find the routine when you crave for it in the day/night and then replace with another substance (I'd go with coffee).
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Oh Zero.
Thank goodness for it too because all my life when I still had the metabolism of a weasel, I could not fathom how the girls about me could suffer those diet drinks and the horrid aftertaste.
As I grew in to my older years and the coke drinks were becoming a visible liability, along came zero. Not just low calorie or low sugar, but zero dude! And as long as it's cold, it tastes good. But even warmer it's not anywhere near as bad as diet soda.
Viva La Coke Zero!
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Diet over Coke. Don't know about Zero. I've barely tried it.
Diet? Why? Less sweet, a bit nicer. I have no expectation that it does me any less harm though!
Kevin
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I like full fat Coke. However, around 2 weeks ago I started drinking Zero (both are free at work in the fridge outside my office). Wanted to see if it made any difference. I was only drinking one can of Full Fat a day, around 3pm.
I have also stopped having a full lunch. I was just eating far too much at work. They over feed us offshore. I have a few crackers or digestives and some Kiri cheese for lunch and then a normal full meal at night.
I have noticed now that I now am sleeping better at nights! Less tossing and turning, no waking during the night or anything like that.
I am not overweight, but haven't stepped on a scale yet to see if has made any change. I will check before I jump on the helicopter to go home. The big test will be when I get home, where it is hot and sunny and I like a few ice cold cans during the day while lazying about the pool.
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Coffee, on weekdays, Whisky neat on others.
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I've never liked the old "Diet" versions of most sodas. Weird aftertaste and harsh on the palette. Regular Coke (and Mountain Dew for that matter) taste too syrup-y to me now though that I stopped drinking sodas constantly so I prefer Zero. Actually drinking some Coke Zero at the moment for some afternoon caffeine.
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Diet Coke. I switched to Diet Coke at the same time I quit smoking, so I associate full-strength Coke with cigarettes. At this point, I actually prefer the taste of Diet Coke.
Software Zen: delete this;
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As in subject.
Cheers,
विक्रम
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Wine contains stuff that's good for your heart. Beer contains pleasure. Coffee contains a pick-me-up.
Water contains bacteria.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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If at all, I drink proper coke, because I don't like chemical sh*t storm.
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Exactly this, even if to be honest normal Coke is probably only a tad less chemicals than Diet and Zero. Diest is evil, I had an ex-coworker who almost died because of the faked sugar (Is it called aspartam also in Engelish ?). My lessons learned is : if you want to eat unhealthy things, then go for original, because everything else is worse.
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Zero because I prefer the taste. I loved the first version of Coke Zero, it tasted like petroleum and I loved it. Second version was the bset, the new one is a bit too sweetened for my tastes.
I can no longer dring normal coke though, it leaves my mouth all pasty for all the sugars.
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Diet Coke. Don't need the sugar in full test Coke. That and I don't like the taste of it. Zero tastes too much like full test.
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I just drink a quarter of a litre of water and eat six tablespoons of sugar.
It reduces the weight of the weekly shopping by 37%, while having no effect on my sugar and water intake.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Hey everybody, I’m new here and in the market for a new career.
I'm seeking some advice on if I can realistically self-teach myself programming in a few months, or even do a 3 month “boot camp” and be job-ready?
I come from a more traditional place of having to get 3-5 year degrees… so I’d like to confirm if the above is actually possible or realistic? I’m 27, pretty good with computers generally, and hungry for a good job. However, i'm not a genius or anything.
The TLDR part of my story… trying to summarise as best I can:
-My 6 year relationship with my ex ended 4 months ago, pretty much shattered my world.
-I have a masters degree in architecture from 2015, I did 6 months post-graduate work which I didn’t enjoy and ended up leaving to run a business with my (now ex) partner. Now that’s just ended, I’m needing to find a job.
-I’ve got enough savings to last me a year without work, but I really want to get something ASAP.
-I’m applying to get back into architecture places, but not super keen on it. The job market is also pretty bad, not many opportunities and not great pay.
-I’ve been interested in programming before but never made a leap to study it or anything – nows the time though if its going to happen.
-I looked on seek and saw heaps of jobs with good pay and good future predicted growth, which is why I’m taking another look at it now.
So… is it possible to self-teach, or do a 3 month boot camp and be job-ready? How easy is it to get a job? I’m living in Melbourne (Australia).
Any advice / tips / ideas are appreciated!
Thanks guys
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Warning; first part sounds harsh, but read on. There's never a TL,DR in the documentation
m4444 wrote:
I'm seeking some advice on if I can realistically self-teach myself programming in a few months, or even do a 3 month “boot camp” and be job-ready?
How about brain-surgery in 21 days?
Yes, you can learn some basics, but not enough for me to consider hiring you. The kids coming from the schools here have at least spent three years learning to code, have done 2 projects in a working-environment, and are fairly cheap. Why would I take someone older with an introductory course?
m4444 wrote: I’m 27, pretty good with computers generally, and hungry for a good job.
..you should also be willing to say goodbye to a part of your social life, and accept that while you program, you will be learning. You can't stop after x months and proclaim you're there - you'd have to learn continuously, also besides having a job.
m4444 wrote: -I have a masters degree
We're used to that. Most companies will ask you to write a short piece of code to prove you can actually write code.
m4444 wrote: -I’ve got enough savings to last me a year without work, but I really want to get something ASAP.
Get the book "head first c#", try understanding it within a month. Once you have gotten that into your head, you should jump into the semi-deep water and do a small project. Also, you should be daily on this site, after that month, trying to answer the easier questions you can scout. Most of them can be solved by reading the documentation, and it will expand your knowledge faster.
Before you begin, accept that it will not be a fun time, and the reward for the labor will come a lot later.
m4444 wrote: -I looked on seek and saw heaps of jobs with good pay and good future predicted growth, which is why I’m taking another look at it now.
Hahaha, "good predicted growth" is an empty sales-promise. I predict someone selling you a bridge
Employers will make room, if you are willing, hungry and capable - regardless of the industry you're in. Don't expect to be making a fortune either. If you want money, you should become a banker.
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