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Norton Utilities were fantastic, back in the day - if you didn't have a copy, you probably needed one fairly soon and found a mate with one. Not sure I ever worked for a company that actually bought a copy though ...
Now? Pure bloatware designed to be removable only by nuclear strike on the HDD 
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OriginalGriff wrote: Norton Utilities were fantastic, back in the day
OriginalGriff wrote: Now? Pure bloatware
It is an interesting contrast that seems to display how that small companies often do things better.
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Could be, but I think it's more the company that is run by people who know what they are doing, that have a passion for it, as opposed to accountants who ... let's be charitable ... know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
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OriginalGriff wrote: company that is run by people who know what they are doing, that have a passion for it, as opposed to accountants who ... let's be charitable ... know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
I agree completely.
And, generally, those positive details you mention are only carried out by small(er) companies.
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You can get medium - and even pretty large - companies that are run by people who care, and it shows: look at Williams F1, Mercedes F1 - separate companies, huge staff, unbelievable amounts of money and boy, do they care about what they are doing! 
And you can get small companies run by accountants and we all know what they are like to work for or deal with.
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Very good points!! +5 LifePoints to you for making me think.
Now, I am even more interested in how someone keeps those larger companies caring and motivated.
And, you're correct, of course, about some small companies too.
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Small companies focus on the product.
Big on sales.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Now? Pure bloatware designed to be removable only by nuclear strike on the HDD
The one who did the "Norton Removal tool" won his place in heaven with it...
I, however, was in love with their "norton ghost" for backing up. If it would work in Win10 and UEFI I would probably continue using it.
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If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Is it rubbish now ?
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Symantec.
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I guess that's inspiring, but when I got involved with an entrepreneurial program back at the university business school, I found out his story is far from unique. Nearly every entrepreneur that ever survived did something simila. AS I did when I started my first business.
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as an entrepreneur his story is far from unique, but as a programmer not every other guy has written books like: "Peter Norton's Assembly Language Book for the IBM PC", "Advanced C Programming", "The Peter Norton Programmer's Guide to the IBM PC"...
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Just don't compare the Norton products of decades ago with the Norton products of today.
I don't really know Peter Norton's backstory, but for getting his name associated with what it is today, I hope he took the money and never looked back.
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Do software/computer user group meetings even exist anymore other than in some college towns with a lot of tech industry?
Explorans limites defectum
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Dean Roddey wrote: Do software/computer user group meetings even exist anymore other than in some college towns with a lot of tech industry?
There are a couple here in Dayton (weekly) and some in Columbus (annual and weekly) and neither are really large cities.
You can also check out the meetup site to see if there are some near you : meetup.com[^]
If you have location turned on it'll show you upcoming meetings near you.
Or you can search a city like the following:
Meetups near Dayton, Ohio | Meetup[^]
Meetups covers everything but you'll see Web Dev group, JS group, etc.
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I have a Windows Service running that does a number of file conversions docx->PDF->PostScript plus combining the files. I'm running into a problem of hard drive write latency. The application writes a file (converts to another format). When it finishes, it copies it elsewhere, but I am getting an error that the converted file is not accessible. I'm assuming that my server is configured to do buffered file writes like a storage server when what I really need is a file server that is done writing when it says it is done. I put in a time delay before the file copy, but it didn't seem to help. Is there a way to confirm the file write is complete or some way around this?
Any suggestions or links to the problem would be appreciated. Thanks, M
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This is really a programming question so you are in the wrong forum - you need to be in "quick answers", "Ask a question".
However, I had the same issue and simply had my copying code loop (with a few milliseconds sleep) until the file was properly closed. Waiting an arbitrary time will be too flaky. Loop it!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Thanks. I'll move it there as well. Thanks for the answer too. I just don't really like a loop that doesn't have a fixed end. I do three tries now...
... and could you be trusted with the source code 
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Michael Breeden wrote: could you be trusted with the source code
Nah. He'd turn round and flog it to the Chinese. He's done it before...
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...but never again. US customs impounded all the bags of rice at the border!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I vaguely remember using a 100ms wait time and gave up with an error notification if I looped more than 300 times (30 seconds total) - computers don't get tired or mad about doing the same thing over and over so looping only 3 times because "that's probably enough" is not bringing enough firepower to bear!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote: omputers don't get tired or mad about doing the same thing over and over
Bah my laptop will go on strike every time I try and loop database writes it considers too deep, cantankerous bitch that she is.
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Forogar wrote: I had the same issue and simply had my copying code loop (with a few milliseconds sleep) until the file was properly closed. Waiting an arbitrary time will be too flaky. Loop it!
I have a method in my static Globals class called FileIsOpen that does the same thing. It loops until the file is closed, or until a time limit is met (throws an exception).
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Hi,
Michael Breeden wrote: problem of hard drive write latency
Liquid Nitrogen.
Michael Breeden wrote: but I am getting an error that the converted file is not accessible
The scenario you are giving does not make a lot of sense to me. It sounds more like something has obtained an exclusive lock on the newly created file. Most likely Windows Defender or whatever third-party security product you are using.
From your service when you create the file... use the LockFile function after calling CreateFile with the FILE_FLAG_NO_BUFFERING flag. Hold the lock for the entire time and finally after you copy the file to the final destination release it.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Randor wrote: Liquid Nitrogen.
I've used that. It just works...
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