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W∴ Balboos wrote: A reduction of dependence upon China for pretty much everything
This. Diversity of sourcing is critical for both national and worldwide resilience.
Yes, costs will be higher, at least to begin with, but perhaps costs have been artificially low for too long.
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Not to mention the rise in 3D printing. This will have drastic effects on logistics in the future. Dependency will fall to those that can print items nearer to their point of consumption.
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Yes, good point. 3D printing has great promise. (I'd call it paradigm shifting if that wasn't a cliché now).
That said, it seems that 3D printing still has significant technological barriers before it is ready to disrupt whole economies. Much like general use robots (still, still) and AI that has to cope with disparate real world scenarios (yes, still) and fusion power, it is *still* 'coming soon'.
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 Could be interesting if they have to cook up their own RISC chipset...
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And their own OS, and their own apps, and app store, and ... ARM is licenced and will tie them up in court if it works out binary compatible.
Given the current level of trust countries are showing Huawei (Oz, US, Canada, NZ, ...) would you want a chip designed by them in your phone? Bear in mind you probably pay with it, access your bank, ...
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I did say Interesting (not a good idea!) they would be in the Zune vs iPod country of cool idea, lets see if we can, oh we missed the boat...
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Wouldn't be easy either - one of the reasons ARM is so prevalent in the mobile device market is it's incredible power requirements. Not an easy job to catch up with unless you start ignoring IP! 
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OriginalGriff wrote: Given the current level of trust countries are showing Huawei (Oz, US, Canada, NZ, ...) would you want a chip designed by them in your phone? Bear in mind you probably pay with it, access your bank, ...
Current speculation is that Huawei's after trade secrets, not any individual's bank account.
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I mean my bank account barely keeps me a float!!
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I'm not sure exactly what they are "after" and I doubt anyone outside the upper echelons of the Chinese Communist Party do. Destabilising countries by forcing bunches of banks to have cash flow problems would be a "cheap" way to pursue a war, and Huawei are very close to their government. Heck, it'd be self financing in the short term! 
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Aside from the other nefarious speculation, there is one great and grand agenda of the Chinese Government that they make no secret of: to become the world's technology leader.
To further this, they force technology transfer (or just plain steal it). WIth all the nuances of trade negotiations aside, were I in talks with them, the stopping of this would be not only number on on my demand list but 100% non-negotiable. And since the government controls all aspects of their society, I'd make them pay for all product piracy - they could stop it in an instant if they cared to.
Now - part two - the actual trade negotiations - will have to do with market access and tit-for-tat on any requirements they have on forced Chinese ownership if one sets up a business/plant/etc. in China. Retroactive to their current holdings if they don't submit.
I'd make sure Japan, and other, take really good note of this market-opening, as well.
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Was browsing Amazon Prime and found all the episodes of Laugh-In  Spent MUCH longer than I should have refreshing memories of that show 
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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Shoot, it's all over YouTube too.
Funny how as time goes by our sense of humor gets more jaded though.
I watch stuff that would make me roll on the floor only to make me go meh today.
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Ron Anders wrote: Funny how as time goes by our sense of humor gets more jaded though.
I watch stuff that would make me roll on the floor only to make me go meh today.
I think there are three factors at work here.
Humour does tend to belong to a particular time/zeitgeist. That's not always true, of course, as there are genuinely timeless things - the Laurel and Hardy movies, the Phil Silvers Show and Hancock's Half Hour have always made me laugh in spite of being made before I was born - but the vast majority of comedy always seems to belong to the age in which it was created. Many comedies that I loved in the past now simply register as half-decent. That's not so often the case with drama where things tend to hold their appeal (or lack of) regardless of age.
Secondly, repetition does rather ruin a joke. Watch the funniest thing in the world a few dozen times and it won't be anywhere near as funny as it was the first time.
The other aspect, I think, is anticipation. When you're keyed up to laugh your head of because you did so during last week's episode and everyone has been talking about how brilliant it was, there's a far higher chance of you finding the next episode funny than if you came at it cold. This was probably more relevant back in the days when we watched things as they were broadcast but it still applies to an extent.
So we're maybe not quite as jaded as we think.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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I tend to agree with your sentiment....
Quote: the Laurel and Hardy movies, the Phil Silvers Show and Hancock's Half Hour have always made me laugh in spite of being made before I was born
I still laugh when I see 'Who's On First' even though I almost know it by heart....
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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So, you call yourself stoneyowl2 and complain about being up all night?
Really?
Clearly you either (1) need a new name or (2) get some sleep in the daytime - like you're supposed to, or (3) Edit the Original post's title and content - and we may just forget this ever happened.
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If you looked at my avatar picture, you would notice that I collect owl sculptures (which is the source of my alias). Plus, living in Florida there are plenty of burrowing owls who are very active in the daytime.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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OK - Owls. Lawn Gnomes. Whatever.
Which will it be: (1), (2), or (3).
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- Can't change the name, too many other places that use it
- No sleep during the day - work and the noisy things that live under my desk called dogs keep me awake
- I stand by my title and statement.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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Wrong item tricks you thirty seconds before good long wait (4, 9)
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time immemorial ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Not sure... it was too long ago to remember now 
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Time consuming
Wrong item = time
Tricks - cons
You - u
Thirty seconds = half a minute = min
Good - g
Nice clue!
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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VG!
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