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Why are you even asking? Does it even matter what he says, given you already have "belief"? And how much "proof" would it be that it is implied, if he's only remembering?
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Why are you even asking?
Because I want to know. 
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Does it even matter what he says, given you already have "belief"?
Of course. Beliefs can change.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: And how much "proof" would it be that it is implied, if he's only remembering?
I didn't ask for proof. I just ask if he remembered what made him think it was implied.
Geez, you are stretching.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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ZurdoDev wrote: Of course. Beliefs can change.
Idiot.
Reread the thread. You asked for proof, and you're an idiot.
Now you owe me 500 dollar AND an apology.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I see it's past your bedtime. Good night.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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I don't have one; I will keep my promise and will always oppose a believer.
The delusional against the rational, I will always be here. Anytime. Anywhere. Always.
Your God is no match for me. I would wear a copper armor in a thunderstorm to prove so.
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All Gods are bastards. The turtle moves.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Quote: I will keep my promise and will always oppose a believer.
Is that what you believe? ...well, I hate to tell you this, and you may not believe it but... oh, never mind.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote: Is that what you believe?
Nope, that's what I do.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Interesting topic-
In SF various human subspecies often evolve under extreme environments, or through genetic manipulation, but it's harder to find stories with different human species that couldn't interbreed.
A couple interesting subspecies include the Quaddies from Bujold's Vorskogian Saga series- deliberately created for zero-G, with four arms and no legs. Now 'obsolete' with the invention of artificial gravity. Also the human variants from Niven's Known Space series - 'We Made Itians', Jinxians, etc.
I found this article by Larry Niven talking about the evolutionary themes in his books. It's fascinating to see the whole sweep from the Slavers and their food yeast, to the Pak, and the Puppeteers project to secretly influence human evolution.
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Larry Niven's Known Space is a brilliantly inventive...environment? What's the right word?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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SF & Fantasy writers usually call it "Worldbuilding".
Long ago, my wife was running a general book discussion at a library branch, and the members hadn't read any SF, but were interested in trying something different. I suggested "Ringworld" 
They all finished the book, and it wasn't the generic space opera they were expecting. Quite a lively discussion with the different themes, and they were fascinated by the different characters, like Speaker-to-Animals and Nessus.
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The Morlocks took "Eat the Rich" seriously.
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Forogar wrote: which do you think you would most likely become
Neither, because I'm not a cardboard cut-out used by a writer because he can't write any better.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Although, in the great scheme of things, it cures nothing, I just had the pleasure of telling of a high-ranking supervisor when they said bad data wasn't user error.*
I was a bit more polite than I felt and not as cynical as I should have been, but if they don't like it they can ask me to leave . . .
* it absolutely was
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Yes it is quite refreshing to be able to say "It's a THEM problem and not an US problem." and be able to prove it.
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It's time to replace all those pesky users by bots !
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User: Technical term used by developers. See idiot.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Forogar wrote: Perception and reality are often quite different!
Brings to mind another parallel syntax:
Justice and Law are often quite different.
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He has something of a point though. Data can and should be filtered, when possible. It's like the comics we've all seen about "little Bobby Tables" whose name flushed the school's database.
NOTE : I fully understand that it is not always possible to filter all bad data.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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How can it be a user error?
If there's something you shouldn't be allowed to enter, you shouldn't be ABLE to enter it either!
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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Really?
That will happen only when we chop off their arms and legs and make sure they can't press keys with a pencil.
YOU CANNOT FILTER STUPID !
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W∴ Balboos wrote: bad data wasn't user error
Depends on your perspective.
If this is QA trying to put your user input handling code through its paces, and you end up with bad data being accepted and committed...then the fault is with the validation code.
How accommodating do you want to be? We live in a hostile world where the validity of user input should never be taken from granted.
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foreach ($user as $fool) {
A great bug-a-boo: how do you validate a field that is supposed to accept text input? Droplists are everywhere possible (to prevent foolishness and sloth); as are number-only fields; even a field for VIN which checksums the value and warns of an error. Etc Etc Etc.
Sloppy work is just that - someone needs to clean up the spills. And, of course, there's no cure for stupid.
In this case, it was either (1) user input error, or (2) data sets sent by an outside source which themselves are not validated.
} // END: foreach ($user as $fool)
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I am in New Zealand. It is currently 9 degrees C. The shortest day is almost upon us.
And youtube decides to show me an add "Sky is out, Thighs are out. Get the most comfortable shorts...."
These guys are hiring hoards of marketing people to front a huge team of engineers, data scientists, analysts powered by untold compute capacity at the problem, fed with all the data they can source.
Yet they cannot tell the southern hemisphere from the northern hemisphere.
Maybe that is a new variable they need to add to their models (once they license the patent I'm about to apply for)
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There is no such thing as a "southern hemisphere". You guys are just closer to the edge!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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