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ooohhhh yes  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I’m still waiting on the “low lying fruit “.
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Even Dilbert is getting in on the CCC theme.
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Ah, now, that really works for me ...
The reason that it transcends the stereotypical cartoonic tropes is that it simultaneously embraces the zeitgeist and underlying notions of classical inter-personal theorisation with an added soupcon of whimsy which sugar-coats the fundamental expository of the notion that language can never transcend the merely personal. The bathetic effect of the ultimate frame contraindicates the heroic, yet doomed, optimism of the exposition bring us to a rousing coda unifying the disparate elements of the piece into a crystalline gestalt. The Wittgensteinian undertones provide a scintillating counterpoint to the contemporary setting. 9/10
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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IOW, bullshit.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Now, you see - that is exactly why I need the headphones in my life.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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In this case you need the glasses equivalent  
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I wonder if they also filter out "wine snob" bullshit?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Enjoyed this....
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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Haha...
This is a hard one for me.
Each trade has it's own jargon.
Each profession has it's own jargon.
They need it.
It isn't just spoken to exclude and annoy others.
Some of the jargon that I used to use in the past has become normal speak almost.
There is always someone who is excluded though.
What really annoys me is the fashionable buzz words and bullshit words.
Oh and the best for filtering out "wine snob" bullshit is to drink more wine.
Works for me.
(WOMM)
Sometimes my ears and brain does it for me anyway....
I just hear "Blah Blah Blah"
So no need to buy those expensive headphones.
(Especially loved PeeJayAdams response. Certainly a crystalline gestalt post.)
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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Message Removed
modified 27-Jun-19 2:19am.
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122. Concerning transit vehicle problem (5)
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RE - concerning
BUS - transit vehicle
REBUS - problem
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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I hate mock. I mean not in general, in general I don't care I just think they are a waste of time.
But I particularly hate them in the case of automated testing.
Not only they make you waste time writing code to set them up in each test, but then you are not testing the real thing, you are testing mocks!
Now the funny thing is, I had some unit test that validated some functionality as working but it was not working for the user and I was completely puzzled...
After writing a little app to test the real thing, turns out I had one insidious mock in my test. Just one. And that was the one thing that worked in the test but failed in the real app!
On top of that it was completely unneeded.. the real interface would have worked just as well (or failed, in that case) 
modified 26-Jun-19 21:57pm.
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Well, they're unit tests, so you're testing units, not multiple units or entire systems (other tests exist for that).
And from the perspective of the unit you're testing it doesn't really matter if IRepository.GetData gets the data from a database, a service or a mock.
From the perspective of the test is does matter since the database and service can't be controlled from the test scenario, but a mock can.
A mock will always return x when the input is y, a database or service might not.
And then the thing you're actually testing can always use value x which should always return value z, which can be asserted.
public int AddOneToDbField(IRepository repo)
{
int dbField = repo.GetNumber();
return dbField + 1;
}If you want to test your repository you should do stuff like integration testing, although I've also seen unit tests that connect to databases.
But if you're testing your mocks you might not be doing it right
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Super Lloyd wrote: you are not testing the real thing, you are testing mocks!
Then you're doing your unit testing wrong.
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Maybe the code is mocking you?
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Well, I ain't a'gonna be making no effort in answerin' a one of 'em; that's darn tootin'!
Know your enemy!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Well, I ain't a'gonna be making no effort in answerin' a one of 'em; that's darn tootin'!
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Sometimes I know the solution but I do not have 50 points to be allowed to answer. Chicken, egg, Rooster problem
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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digimanus wrote: Sometimes I know the solution but I do not have 50 points to be allowed to answer.
Interesting that they shoot themselves in the foot with that one.
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"Unanswered" is a bit of a misnomer as some have been "de-answered".
Take a look at the top one on the list, for example - it's protected due to answers having to be removed. Whether that's an OP not accepting one or an overzealous mod or a genuine case of all the answers being totally unhelpful, we will never know.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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