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Mark_Wallace7-Jul-19 0:58

Mark_Wallace

7-Jul-19 0:58

Sounds kinda familiar[^]

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

dandy727-Jul-19 4:16

dandy72

7-Jul-19 4:16

Sander Rossel wrote:
ApacheHelicopter,

OK, I LOLed...

David O'Neil7-Jul-19 11:44

David O'Neil

7-Jul-19 11:44

Sander Rossel wrote:
Dev 2: Rofl, and maybe we can do something like make him a pop singer in 2020!

Reminds me of our narcissist in chief dancing. If your programmers had anything to do with that, they should lose their jobs! Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

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Sander Rossel7-Jul-19 21:02

Sander Rossel

7-Jul-19 21:02

Pretty sweet song though Big Grin | :-D

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David O'Neil7-Jul-19 21:20

David O'Neil

7-Jul-19 21:20

True dat!

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Chris C-B7-Jul-19 5:32

Chris C-B

7-Jul-19 5:32

"I refute it thus!" [kicks large stone]

kalberts7-Jul-19 5:56

kalberts

7-Jul-19 5:56

You should read James P. Hogan: Realtime Interrupt - a great novel for loosing your sleep at night.

BillWoodruff7-Jul-19 7:02

7-Jul-19 7:02

Quote:
“It is quite an illusion to imagine that one adjusts to reality essentially without the use of language and that language is merely an incidental means of solving specific problems of communication or reflection. The fact of the matter is that the 'real world' is to a large extent unconsciously built upon the language habits of the group. No two languages are ever sufficiently similar to be considered as representing the same social reality. The worlds in which different societies live are distinct worlds, not merely the same world with different labels attached. We see and hear and otherwise experience very largely as we do because the language habits of our community predispose certain choices of interpretation.”

Edward Sapir, 1929

«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot

Carlosian9-Jul-19 4:54

9-Jul-19 4:54

Wow, never saw that quote before. Thanks for sharing it!

BillWoodruff9-Jul-19 5:45

9-Jul-19 5:45

you might enjoy this:

Quote:
“The beginning, middle, and end of the birth, growth, and perfection of whatever we behold is from contraries, by contraries, and to contraries; and whatever contrariety is, there is action and reaction, there is motion, diversity, multitude, and order, there are degrees, succession and vicissitude.” Giordano Bruno, written circa 1600CE

Words like these got Bruno burned at the stake for heresy in 1609CE.

«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot

Carlosian10-Jul-19 4:38

10-Jul-19 4:38

That is awesome. Yes, I've heard of him, but unfortunately not as familiar as it looks like I should be with his writing.

You sound like a programmer-philosopher! I love it. I have a friend who's a professor of philosophy and talking to him makes me wish I perhaps taken a riskier path in college...

BillWoodruff10-Jul-19 7:21

10-Jul-19 7:21

It's never too late to increase your exposure to philosophy ... and, there are so many free resources on the web ... videos, e-books.

The "classic" novel by Pirsig, "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance," is an entrancing, wonderful, way to meet Plato's, Aristotle's, and other ancient Greeks, ideas: [^], [^]

For me, at age 75, I find the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius [^] as relevant to my life as morning coffee Smile | :)

But, I think I wasn't ready for his teachings until age 60 WTF | :WTF:

«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot

Carlosian11-Jul-19 5:38

11-Jul-19 5:38

Thanks for the recommendations. I read "Zen..." many years ago, but I think I was far to young (and naive) to understand what it was really about. I need to find my copy and read it again.

I have a stack of philosophy books to read, but I don't think Marcus Aurelius is among them. I will check him out too, thanks!

abmv7-Jul-19 8:05

abmv

7-Jul-19 8:05

video version -- Computing a Universe Simulation -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GLgZvTCbaA

Caveat Emptor.

"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

PeejayAdams7-Jul-19 22:37

PeejayAdams

7-Jul-19 22:37

BillWoodruff wrote:
Or, we could be in the equivalent of tv-dramas like Dynasty, The Sopranos ?

We're not sufficiently well dressed to be in Dynasty. We're not sufficiently well written to be in The Sopranos.

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

Krojer Thomas8-Jul-19 0:25

Krojer Thomas

8-Jul-19 0:25

Holodeck - exit!

Nelek8-Jul-19 2:11

Nelek

8-Jul-19 2:11

BillWoodruff wrote:
Would a scientifically valid proof that our reality is a simulation make a difference ?

I suppose it depends... Do you want to take the red pill or the blue one?

M.D.V.

If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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BillWoodruff8-Jul-19 4:06

8-Jul-19 4:06

Nelek wrote:
Do you want to take the red pill or the blue one?

I'll go ask Goddess when she's ten feet tall. [^]

«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot

Kirk 103898218-Jul-19 2:54

Kirk 10389821

8-Jul-19 2:54

Yes it matters if we know.
The Bannister Effect. Once the 4 minute mile was achieved, breaking a belief that it could not be, MANY people did it.

So, we have people leading people for years (Carnegie, etc). Tony Robbins. Teaching you to walk on hot coals without getting burned.

It would have a transformative power on those that master it. Ala the Matrix.
Now here is the sick part...

What happens if our simulation is controlled from a simulation, and we discover the technique that those who wrote us use to detect their simulation? (ie, can the machine out think their Gods?)...

And what happens if that cascades to destroy the whole thing to start again? BOOM!

Member 28960208-Jul-19 3:42

Member 2896020

8-Jul-19 3:42

Don't drink too much Kool Aid... it's actually bad for your health...

...else we will

kill -9 $YOU

Slow Eddie8-Jul-19 3:55

Slow Eddie

8-Jul-19 3:55

This would certainly go a long way to explaining the socialists around the world and the democrats in the U.S. in particular.

Nancy Pelosi has GOT to be a program bug. Poke tongue | ;-P

You should only be able to get out of life an amount equal to what you contribute to the common good.

Appearances count for nothing performance counts for everything. If this law were enforced (whether we're a simulation or not), the fashion designers, artists, politicians, etc. would not exist.

Carlosian9-Jul-19 4:57

9-Jul-19 4:57

Wow. A world without art. Boy would that suck. I'm glad that rule isn't enforced!

Slow Eddie10-Jul-19 2:32

Slow Eddie

10-Jul-19 2:32

When vandalism on building is considered "Art", and ridiculous women's fashions are considered "Art", I could enforce it. Selectively, at least. Poke tongue | ;-P

Cranky old men deserve love too!