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All I want to know is how Hammond managed to get that gasket out of there without loosening any of those oilpan bolts?
(... what's that noise, what's that noise? ... ) 
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I predict this thread will quickly degrade into US politics and end up in the soapbox
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Politics?
If you decide to take it in that direction, then it may indeed go there, but there is bugger-all political about devs being blamed for failures in management.
Kindly keep any political perversion out of Lounge threads.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Kindly keep any political perversion out of Lounge ALL threads.
We're sick of perverts
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How'd I do?
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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I gave up on reading all the responses, but the Soapboxy parts are of a different tact than usual. It's the making-fun and throwing a lot of parties into the same basket as examples.
I'll assume it's all in fun - but lumping things together that shouldn't be - well that can take on a life of its own - and is well exploited in the current over-media-soaked environment.
Now, I question if I joined in or merely commented from the side.
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Sometimes your posts fulfill their purpose.
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I blame Trump... and Obama... and all the Clintons... and the Republican wing-nuts... and Democrat snowflakes... and Julian Asange... and Nike... and Apple... and Brexit... and the EU.
Pretty sure the Russians colluded with Airbus to make this happen, too. Let's call for a special prosecutor!
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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I also blame Christianity and Muslims and Jews and Nazi's and Communism and China and Kim Jong * and Elon Musk 
Phew, we sure have a lot of scapegoats about... 
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You forgot the Prime Suspect: Bill Gates.
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You only blame them because google skewed its search results to point the finger away from itself.
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Good one 
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I love how the site tells me about cookies and then tells me to choose "Yes" if I want personal ads and "No" if I don't, but I can't select anything, and then there's only a single button "Submit"
Now that DOES seem like something I could blame on a developer (and possibly a tester for not noticing this)
I think every manager who blames mistakes on subordinates should be fired on the spot.
"We hired the cheapest we could get on the other side of the globe and we fired our own senior programmers, and all in all it's their fault if it's broken."
There's even a saying for that kind of stupidity... You get what you pay for! 
Too bad these managers probably got millions in bonuses for staying in budget and delivering on time while 356 people were killed 
Once again, everyone was wronged, except those doing the wrongs.
And they say crime doesn't pay...
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Sander Rossel wrote: I love how the site tells me about cookies and then tells me to choose "Yes" if I want personal ads and "No" if I don't, but I can't select anything, and then there's only a single button "Submit"
Now that DOES seem like something I could blame on a developer (and possibly a tester for not noticing this)
Interesting you should choose this for your example. I can tell you this much, it's not a developer who decided that a web site should warn about cookies.
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dandy72 wrote: it's not a developer who decided that a web site should warn about cookies.
But it is a developer who implemented it badly 
Telling me there's a choice and not letting me pick...
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Sander Rossel wrote: But it is a developer who implemented it badly
Sure. And then it got approved and got pushed out the door in that way.
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Sander Rossel wrote: I love how the site tells me about cookies and then tells me to choose "Yes" if I want personal ads and "No" if I don't, but I can't select anything, and then there's only a single button "Submit"
They probably gave up maintaining it because they use www.youronlinechoices.eu, so they don't actually have to have anything complicated on their pages.Sander Rossel wrote: everyone was wronged, except those doing the wrongs
Exactly -- as long as you include "suffering a terrifying and horrific death" as a "wrong".
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Exactly -- as long as you include "suffering a terrifying and horrific death" as a "wrong".
I'm calling that a "maybe" 
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It was software that failed, ultimately.
The cause is poor aerodynamics caused by fitting a large diameter engine to a plane that sits very low on the tarmac. Airbus didnt have this problem, it sits much higher.
What I dont understand is why the software kicked in when there wasnt a stall, and didnt disconnect when the planes attitude went level/nose down.
There is a serious screw up here.
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Because a damaged sensor was reporting the wrong speed and/or angle. Turns out it was only one sensor, no backup sensors to signal a problem. So it was not a software problem only. The whole plane is a dangerous garbage and I wonder if the other Boeing planes are the same junk. I will check from now on with the airline company if the plane I'm about to fly on is Boeing.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Jesus, and no effective manual override.
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