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Congrats on the win win!
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Johoho and a bottle of rum !
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See Trump is improving things.
Ducks and runs.
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#realJSOP wrote: because our dev boxes aren't connecte to the internet
How the hell do you get any work done without Google/CP/SO? 
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We have a 2nd machine. If we want to add/update a Nuget Package or VS extension, or even just find a code snippet that's fairly long, we have to burn it to a cd from our internet machine, and transfer it to the dev box, and copy it.
On the bright side, we have a KVM that supports dual monitors, so switching back and forth is easy.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I guess productivity is an afterthought 
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USAF - The IT guys go by the slogan "Security above productivity.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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If there's no productivity there's nothing to secure, smart move 
Seriously though, sounds like both a very interesting and an infuriatingly annoying workplace.
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There's nothing unusual about JSOP's working environment. The only certain way to avoid hacking from the Internet is not to connect to it, and therefore high-security environments simply don't allow it.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: There's nothing unusual about JSOP's working environment
It's pretty unusual...
I get the security issue, but few environments need to be SO secure they don't allow internet.
In fact, I think most businesses couldn't even function properly without internet.
Calling the USAF "nothing unusual" is a bit of an understatement 
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Air-gapped systems are used even in commercial environments, for example on the production line. The last place you want a hacker (or a competitor...) messing with is your production, so you simply keep it off the net.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Yeah, I once had a customer like that.
The entire office didn't have internet, except the manager.
It was impossible to get anything done there 
It was a good hour drive and we had to go there for every little bug fix...
And once there you'd had to call back to the office like "can you just Google that for me real quick" (it was before the time of 4G).
If we were talking about Shell or Unilever or whatnot I'd understand, but this was a small starting butchery no one ever heard of...
The manager was also the IT guy and compared everything to cars, so that may explain a thing or two
I think those guys lasted one or two months before closing down (but they did pay their bill).
I guess you really don't need internet on most production sites so no one would miss it there.
Unless, of course, you're sending your data off to the cloud 
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#realJSOP wrote: we have to burn it to a cd from our internet machine
Yikes.
And I'll bet you do mean CD, as opposed to DVD, which means they probably pay about 4x as much for the blank media (which is going to end up being trashed anyway).
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CD or DVD, aka optical media.
We can't insert any USB devices into any machine either...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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#realJSOP wrote: We can't insert any USB devices into any machine either...
I never really fully understood that policy. If the downloaded code you need to bring over elsewhere contains a virus, then (inadvertently) burning it to CD/DVD won't provide any more protection than copying it on a USB stick.
Coming at it from the other end, if this is to prevent the spread of a virus from an internal machine that's already infected onto another machine, then yeah, it might be able to copy itself on a USB stick but fail to do so on a CD/DVD, but then that means you have an internal machine that's already infected and the first rule in this situation is that you shouldn't be getting files off of it in the first place.
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I never said it made sense. It's just the way it is... :/
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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#realJSOP wrote: I never said it made sense
I would never accuse you of such a thing. 
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Given your usual karma John, I'd check the water fountain for unusual contaminants.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Is the executive suite just expensive candy?
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Maybe so, but that suites me.
/ravi
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We sugar ant very fussy about what we respond to, are we?
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You sure are dextrose with these thoughts!
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It looks that way to the rest of us suckers!
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