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Windows laptops can be cad for 1/2 a song. 
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Ron Anders wrote: Windows laptops can be cad for 1/2 a song.
But, can they be cam for another half ?
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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Yes. I posted after waking and and took off. - just got back. <facepalm>
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I think ... coming from VB ... if you use Visual Studio, and C#, to create WinForm Apps, you'll feel somewhat at home. And, some of the WinForm Controls will feel very familiar ... because they are, under-the-hood, old COM Controls.
Why not do WinForms using VB.NET ? I considered it, but it it looked like a giant mess to me, compared to the mean-lean beauty of C# 
But, check out Apple's latest dev offerings ... I am long out of touch with their tools.
You wanna get multi-platform ? Consider web-apps, Xamarin in Net, etc.
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
modified 27-Jul-19 16:04pm.
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Watching my hubby try to shop is like him watching me trying to change the oil.
Maybe he's defective. I wonder if he's still under warranty?
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Good comparison! 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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do you come in 32-bit?
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Actually I took that moniker when 64-bit was new and shiny. I guess it's not so novel anymore!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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"Richard Andrew Embedded"
has a nice ring. but it makes you sound like a journalist
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Good one! Or maybe "Richard Andrew IoT" 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I'm a firm believer in using the right tool for the job,
... and I'm the first (or if not first I'll be the the loudest) to admit I'm the wrong tool for grocery shopping.
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that's fair. 
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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lopatir wrote: I'm the wrong tool for grocery shopping
Careful you may find yourself out shopping for furniture, clothes, towels (linen I think) and other horrible things.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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you're on to how i think.
*sideeyes you*
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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What is unusual about the way he shops?
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I send him to the grocery store and he returns with things that are quasi-edible.
and motor oil.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Did you send him with a list?
Lists are good.
Although, be careful, once I was given a list with "Mini eggs" on it, so being near Easter, I got the chocolate kind, The savory type were expected 
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i write lists like i comment code.
1. Ingredients for pasta salad
2. Ingredients for artichoke dip
3. Ingredients for BBQ chicken
what's the problem?
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Try like you write code... a lot more specific
BBQ chicken... a chicken and some BBQ sauce.
Artichoke dip... Ketchup, maybe mayo.
Pasta salad... mayo & a lettuce?
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my math teachers hated me for the same reason. "Show your work" - i'm like "the answer is right there" - that's my work.
LOL
"You've seen me make this salad a million times"
"I don't watch you make it. I just eat it"
"Apply yourself"
It never goes well.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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So the poor bugger has to wander around the shop with his nose in Google trying to find the ingredients for this and that, and then you deride (did not want to use bitch at) him for getting the wrong stuff - cruel is that  .
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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they call me gillette because i am the best a man can get.
also i will cut you.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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TY for an afternoon laugh.
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Ahah, that is your problem, if he doesnt know how to cook, he wont know the ingredients.
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what even is life if you can't cook? 
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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