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Yes, I still play that game. Used to be a big gamer, until I quit cold turkey nearly two decades ago. But I still make an exception for new entries in the GTA franchise when they're released for the PC. It's the only game I still fire up once in a while.
I've just found out (and I'm apparently late to realize this) that they've used a 32-bit signed integer to store the amount of money your characters have (so, $2.1B). One of my characters has invested a lot of money in the game's stock market over a long period of time, and I've reached the limit this week. The game doesn't warn you as such...it's just that returns no longer get added to your total.
When a return of "just" 5% still nets you $105M, it kinda brings back the reality of just how big a number "one billion" actually is--I've been struggling to get the game's other two characters to reach $100M. This guys now regularly makes that with modest returns.
These days we keep hearing about companies tossing billions around to purchase one another; Facebook this week got fined $5B for privacy violations (and they just brushed it off, but that's another story)...Bezos has eclipsed Gates as the world's richest man at comfortably over $100B. A number of companies this year for the first time ever have reached a market cap of a trillion dollars.
Where am I headed with this? I have no idea. I'm just pointing out that a billion is still a very big number, despite hearing it all the time nowadays.
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haha i found this out some time ago doing the heists and playing the market.
the way around it is to float most of your money on the stock market and only keep under 2 bili around in your pocket. Keep it well under the mark because by then you have revenue streams from properties and you don't want them bouncing you over the limit.
Having fun yet? I love the game but haven't played online since the PS3 version, and back then I couldn't find enough good players to assemble reliable heist teams.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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So...you have ~2B on the stock market, and keep ~2B in cash? Doesn't sound like much of a workaround to me. I know there's mods out there that supposedly "fix" this, but I simply won't trust my saved game with some third-party hack. I've got too much invested in it (see what I did there?) to trust some third party not to risk corrupting everything. I already had a saved game that Rockstar lost at some point, forcing me to restart - and that was entirely without any outside help...
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it's the only workaround without modding. The game simply didn't plan for you to have that much money, and it shows. 
They key is, buy a bunch of insignificant stock on the Liberty? exchange (the one that's not online)
they don't fluctuate much, so you can treat it as a bank.
It's actually not bad, as you can access your phone and make a "withdrawal" at any time.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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That's how my characters have all been making money (Liberty Stock Exchange). Whenever a stock had been trading significantly higher than what it's at right now (after a big dive) - more likely than not it's a sign that it's about to start rebounding back to the original value.
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the only ones i've noticed that do that are the ones connected to the heist mission.
there's a donut chain or something i use to bank with because it doesn't fluctuate that much.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I've had good luck sticking with the first few entries (listed alphabetically by name). I find the other ones way too unpredictable. Or they'll nosedive and then never recover.
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maybe the doughnut place is just lucky for me. =)
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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"The doughnut place". I'll have to look for it. It doesn't ring a bell. You sure it wasn't just one of the fast-food chains? Or coffee shops?
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it might have been a coffee shop. one of the shops reminded me of dunkin doughnuts for some reason.
i haven't played in over a year. Forgive me. =)
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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adding, if you're patient, at the beginning of the game, or at least by the time you've opened up trevor and can drive him to the city:
there's a briefcase off the coast of a major beach with $10,000 in it and it respawns. if you swim above it, dive. grab it. resurface. quick save. Load. Repeat. you can get starting out money for each of them.
Then all you have to do is wait until the assassination missions to do investing - all but the first you hold off until after the end-game heist.
you can get them investing equal amounts with a bit of grinding and then they will all have about the same amount of money, but you have to plan for it and work for it, and it's a bit of a cheese move.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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codewitch honey crisis wrote: there's a briefcase off the coast of a major beach with $10,000 in it and it respawns
I've heard about that one, and my understanding is that Rockstar became aware of this and they've released a patch, so it no longer respawns.
codewitch honey crisis wrote: Then all you have to do is wait until the assassination missions to do investing
Yeah, that's what all those "get rich quick in GTA5" posts/videos discuss--wait until after the storyline missions to be completed before doing the assassination missions. However, at this point, I'm not going to restart the game once more...
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last time i played it still works.
I understand not wanting to start the game again. But, assuming you're not doing so right now, eventually you may dust it off a year or more down the line and achieve the "100%" rating, at that point you can try to maximise your heist earnings.
I think you can get it as high as 3 or 4 bili, but like i said, you have to keep all but 2 on the market - which you then treat as a volatile "bank" of sorts, although I've noticed a lot of the non-story significant stocks don't change in price that much.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Yeah - if there's still a limit, then I'm happy enough knowing I've reached the "first limit" and not spend any more time trying to reach the second.
It's also unlikely I'm ever going to restart the game...I've been stuck at 99.56% for a very, very long time now, and all that's missing is winning a golf game at or under par (not likely to happen, the way things have progressed), and tennis, which I'm apparently useless at--and I find it so boring I can't bring myself to spend time retrying.
Not sure if you know anything about this...but am I correct in my understanding that there's still a few things you can do/unlock if the account used with the PC game is also associated with the Xbox 360/PS3 version (not XB1/PS4)...? If so, I may still get that (given how cheap it is nowadays)...not that I intend to play it on a console...
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I think so. I know you get extra goodies if you bought both the PS3 and PS4 version (which I did)
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Is it enough to let the game know you own the other version, or do you have to actually play it on the other platforms...I hate console controllers with a passion - I've played GTA4 a tiny bit, for example - but there's no way I'd ever try to complete it
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that's a good question. If i had to guess, i think just signing in with the game once is probably enough to do it.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Everett Dirksen once said, "A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money."
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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While a small number of people in the world are well past the Int32 limit (two billion) on their bank account and are heading to the Int64 limit (9 quintillion, that's a 9 with 18 zeros) most of us (still relatively rich developers) struggle to get even past the Int16 limit (32 thousand).
Of course most people don't even need a byte (255) to store their financials.
Think about that, I'm saying we're relatively rich with just 32,000 when there are people who have 5 million times as much! 
Capitalism has failed, but I don't know of a better alternative...
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Sander Rossel wrote: Capitalism has failed, but I don't know of a better alternative...
I disagree, but the debate would be better suited for the Soapbox...
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I'm just saying the extravagantly rich are getting even richer while the poor are getting poorer (or at least not richer).
I guess that's part of capitalism so it hasn't particularly failed.
So maybe what I mean is that it's not a suitable economic and political system to live by (but still better than the tried alternatives, like communism).
If a system allows for seven people to be as wealthy as about 4 billion other people combined it's not a very good or fair system (and I know, those people aren't necessarily poor because of capitalism, but corruption as well).
Anyway, I was just giving my 2 cents (a day's work in some countries) without necessarily engaging debate 
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Sander Rossel wrote: heading to the Int64 limit (9 quintillion, that's a 9 with 18 zeros)
...but barely getting started. This 2017 article claims "...the total wealth in the world" to be $280 trillion.
Sander Rossel wrote: Capitalism has failed, but I don't know of a better alternative...
Loopholes in the various taxation systems have allowed it to fail. It can be corrected. You just need to have politicians willing to pass new laws (and commit political suicide in the process, which is why it won't happen)
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[^]Quote: Within that document, you could create tables with formulas, similar to how you could with later integrated packages such as Microsoft Works or the modern Web document processors Quip or Coda. The Cat even allowed you to include computer code in the middle of a document that could be executed with a button press.
Instead of a mouse, the Cat had two thumb-accessible buttons under its space bar for its signature navigation/selection feature, Leaping. Say, for example, you wanted to navigate to the word ” feline” 150 lines up from the current cursor position (and thus offscreen). To move the cursor to the word, you would hold down the Leap key, type the first few letters (“fel”) and release the Leap key when the cursor arrived at its intended destination. Leaping was also used to highlight text, after which it could be formatted, moved, erased or printed. It married the efficiency of keyboard shortcuts with the intuitiveness and free-form access of graphical interfaces.
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«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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This is the first time I ever saw one, and I was around for the pc revolution. Cool video. thank for posting.
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