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Nah, I wouldn't make a grave assumption like that... 
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My wife said I have stiff competition.
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So, what's his name?
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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They get o bury their differences.
Technician
1. A person that fixes stuff you can't.
2. One who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge.
JaxCoder.com
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Keep em coming! We need morgue like this one!
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Of corpse it is!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Their businesses are popular... people are dying to get in.
“The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb
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Will they just take any-body as a client? Tomb me, it does cause some questions to worm their way into my thoughts.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Are two ~~ on the same street stiff competition?
We're all thankful that you didn't go for option A.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Indeed! And they make no bones about it. No skeletons in their closets.
/ravi
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I heard an undertaker and his wife are getting a divorce because he keeps bringing his work home with him.
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only if they're in the dead centre of town.
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Specifically, I sometimes break out the CSS to represent specific style attributes, used like this:
<table class='noborders fixed fill'>
and sometimes I lump a bunch of attributes into on CSS, used like this:
<textarea class='taeditor'>
and sometimes its a mishmash, used like this:
<div class='preview h100p'>
The only rhyme or reason is that some CSS styles are reused, like "h100p" (height 100% if you want to know), and some are specific to the container.
Obviously, I could create a style for each tag that contains all the style attributes, but that rather blows CSS re-use out of the water.
So what do you do? Do you have any guidelines you live but won't die by?
And while we're at it, how often do you actually use the "C" part of CSS -- cascading? I've come to avoid that aspect like the plague because as soon as I change something in the layout, the cascading element/class/id structure changes, and I have to go back and fix the CSS. The rare exception is when the container and its children need to always be moved as a unit. You're experience?
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Marc Clifton wrote: Do you have any guidelines you live but won't die by?
Yes, I don't go anywhere near that Web stuff.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: es, I don't go anywhere near that Web stuff.
Don't worry. It's just a fad and will pass soon.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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I know, right?! This internet thingy and these web pages I think they call them, just silly, through and through.
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I basically do the same thing, if it's only going to be used in a certain place and only once I do inline but if it's used more than once I put it in a css file.
I also have a bad habit of putting a style link at top of html page "temporarily" for testing and end up leaving them there until I go back and clean up.
Technician
1. A person that fixes stuff you can't.
2. One who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge.
JaxCoder.com
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I generally try to break the application up into sections and then write the css to match. For example an application might have a "main menu", "main page", "edit page". Then the CSS can be like:
div.main-menu {
}
div.main-menu a {
}
div.main-menu div.sub-menu {
}
div.main-menu div.sub-menu a {
}
It starts out well, and works for the most part, but with larger applications it quickly gets messy and it's too easy to change something by mistake.
The truth is, I find CSS to be a massive headache to keep organised, and I am surprise Visual Studio have never added better tools for managing a CSS file or at least try to encourage a specific standard.
The bottom line is, I don't think anybody really knows how it's supposed to be done. We just make do and hope nobody asks for too many changes! 
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musefan wrote: I don't think anybody really knows how it's supposed to be done.
Heh, that's definitely my experience!
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musefan wrote: I generally try to break the application up into sections and then write the css to match
I tried that, initally, but it ended up with having to make change after change after change affecting multiple files, which was not a pleasant experience.
Now, I do mock-ups with the css in the header of up to three files, and when it's right, I export it to a css file, and form the other files on that.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You need to look at LESS or CASS. This lot would become
div.main-menu {
...
a { ... }
div.sub-menu {
...
a { ... }
}
}
cheers
Chris Maunder
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did you mean SASS by any chance?
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I leave that stuff to front-end devs while I get on with proper development.
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Two main types:
Bulk classes to control a lot of styles at once.
Trees, styles subordiante to an top-level style (like td and td automatically for a given table)
Mini classes to control very specific attributes (bold, center, shadows, position, etc)
and sometimes the latter to modify the former two - and even inline style='' for some final touches if needed
So - pretty much the same. The final tweaks are much more often for functionality than esthetics.
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