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Me too, took them 3 years to realise I didn't have a car! 
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I view the nominal forty hours per week as an average and certainly not a minimum. I may work 36 hours this week but I will work 44 or 50 hours per week soon enough. I really don't sweat it and neither do "they" as long as things get done in a timely fashion. The good thing is we are our own customer - all our work is done for internal use. That has its bad aspects but they are minimal compared to the benefits.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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So we're doing this learning event called "Developing Chatbots 101" for students and newbie developers and I wanted to make the event more interesting and engaging. 
Previously, we've been doing Kahoot (A quiz game) for many events but that's kinda old and boring now. 
One thing that I thought of was to use color charts and pictures, divide the audience in small group and ask them to assemble the workflow of Chatbots using those pictures and chart. Well, my fellow speakers disagree with me thinking that'll be a total waste of time 
So I need some expert advice. What do you guys think would be a good activity during the technical sessions? 
P.S. There's a presentation planned for introductory purposes and later we also have a hands-on demo. The activity was supposed to be in between the two mentioned above.
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Comic books. Superman, Batman, Spiderman.
Or show episodes of "The Expanse".
Nothing to do with chatbots, but all pretty AWESOME.
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I was thinking coloring books and crayons but comics will work.
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Take a minute and listen to Joseph Weizenbaum[^] as he is spinning in his grave.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Don't go there in person. Give a URL to each student and them to do ask whatever they want online prior. While everyone is busy pop-out out of nowhere and tell them how awesome your bot is. If they look irritated, run.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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reminds me of my days working for large companies, E&Y and suchlike
once a year, "as a bonus for your hard work," they would:
- ship us off to some hotel in a foreign land
- do "team building exercises" (or later they gave it some other obscure name),
- and we'd all fart about doing stupid things, of course inter-departmental, lol lol, happy happy
- at the end say how good it was and how we would use these ideas back in the office
- and of course after the "[also fully organized] free and easy day"
--> fly back home, go back to work and do exactly the same things the same way as before.
If it's a frigging bonus:
- why TF do we have to do all this stupid sh*t?
- why TF can't we do what we feel like
- why TF fly to a foreign country only to spend most of the day in a hotel conference room?
It's all nice, everybody acts happy - because they just want it to end, "FFS, please just let it f*g end," because what is the real result: NOTHING! WASTE OF FARKING TIME AND MONEY!
last few years as an employee when that sh*t came around I told them to shove it, didn't care how much they were paying and blah blah, "if it's a 'bonus' treat me like an adult or go fork yourself."
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In your case same advice: don't bother, give them an extra hour for lunch - as much will come from that as stupid exercises. It's bullshit, make the people do something for the sake of filling up the day (or making myself sound smart)
If you really want to win the people over best idea:
skip it completely and let everyone go home an hour or two earlier
- people WILL appreciate THAT as AWESOME
playing games treats the audience like children that need to be kept busy [till mommy finishes work and comes to collect them], it sucks, it's stupid, it's a bad idea all around to treat adults that way - more foll those that fall for that sh*t.
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At a guess, tax breaks. You can generally claim training costs against your company tax, but there has to be a "training element" to it. The free day is the reason you get it - that and any duty free purchases you make - the other day is how the company gets the flights for free.
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yeah that was the other side of the bull, "we have a bonus for you!" and they fly 200 people to Bali or Bankok to play stupid games, but no way are they paying full price if anything at all. (With big firms it's 'sponsored' by their clients, an airline, a hotel group, a training company - as you say they paid little or nothing).
"no thanks, I need to stay back, got stuff on those dates."
"but we've already paid for it" (more bull)
"oh well, bring your wife... don't worry, I won't ask for compensation for not going."
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lopatir wrote: If you really want to win the people over best idea:
skip it completely and let everyone go home an hour or two earlier
Sure, but then the HR geniuses can't write up glowing reports on what a wonderful job they did for the team spirit.
Just remember that they don't do it for you; they do it very much for them.
If it's cr@p, put in your own report, professionally and clearly explaining how it achieved none of the aims it was intended to achieve, and that you believe that the money could be spent/distributed more effectively.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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MehreenTahir wrote: So we're doing this learning event called "Developing Chatbots 101"
Ugh. Isn't there something more morally rewarding you could do? You're going to kill what little remains of the souls of these poor students.
MehreenTahir wrote: What do you guys think would be a good activity during the technical sessions?
Sleep. 
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I'm not sure if you are talking about "Chatbot" as some kind of AI backed, or keyword-lookup based, interactive facility, or if you are talking about an app or service that connects a person to a client.
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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I just have to say Tarantino's latest film is excellent. Some of his films contain unnecessary volumes of blood. This one is fine. All the love here that has gone into the details: cars, buildings, garbage cans, etc is amazing. The colours are beautiful throughout.
If you will only see one movie this year (Netflix doesn't count) then this is the one to pick.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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megaadam wrote: If you will only see one movie this year
If? With all the 'politically correct' reimagined reboot prequel sequels it's indeed a good year if I find any watchable movie at all.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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You just did. The last time I said such a thing about a movie was Into the Wild, some 15 or so years ago.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Quote: Into the Wild
..was a boring movie about a spoiled brat who was also an idiot who did a series of stupid things and then died stupidly.
So why should we listen to you about this one? Especially since 2007 is not 15 years ago, only 12.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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CodeWraith wrote: it's indeed a good year if I find any watchable movie at all.
I'm struggling to remember what was the last movie I saw in an actual theater. As for what I watch at home...they're usually a few years old by the time I get around to it.
FWIW, I'm completely off the comic book movie bandwagon, so that eliminates what, 90% of what's being produced today...?
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Prometheus. That must have been seven years ago.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Does the boss care? (10)
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Mastermind
Master = boss
mind = care
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Is the correct answer, you are up tomorrow!
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We begin a 6000 mile journey, heading west to Arizona, up through Colorado, Utah and Yellowstone then home along a long route south then east. 6 weeks in total and looking forward to putting my new camera to the test. Hope to get a lot of good photos.
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Dagnabit! Gonna build a freakin' wall!
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Use the Member Photos forum to the fullest.
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