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Hi All,
Got to work late, sat down and am thinking about how to account for this. Being a dozy so & so I tend to fill in my timesheet early and put 8 hours for today, so do I do 8 hours today or 6 today and then 2 extra next week? or do I wait for the time when I have mucho work to do and just put in the time then and not claim over time? Trying to be honest about this! Opinions please, waste the time I owe or save it for the rush I can see coming (when I could accrue overtime)...
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did you get the work done that you were to have done by now (or a matching proportion thereof)?
If so put in 8 hours.
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I got what I was supposed to do, done by Tuesday afternoon. Spent yesterday doing some exploratory testing...
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oh well, if they are picky about the time on the clock just say you spent half your lunchtime(s) doing that - already done an extra 2.5 hours just last week...
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Our company policy is that if you earn comp time, or need to make up missed time, you have to do it (take the comp time or make up the missed time) before the end of the pay period.
If it were me, I'd simply work an extra hour for a couple of days, and record the time accurately (6 for today, and 9 for the next two days).
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I agree, make it back as soon as reasonably possible. Looks better on you that way, just in case it's ever raised as an issue...
The big bad boss men: "We noticed you were down some time the other day"
You: "Yeah sorry, but I made it back up as soon as I could"
Not really much more can be said after that.
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Yup that is what I am gonna do, if I get in trouble I'm pointing them to you guys! 
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musefan wrote: Not really much more can be said after that.
If you say so...
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I think that's what I'm going to do. The awkward thing is I can see it being all hands on deck in a few weeks (certain people who should have signed something didn't  )
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I'd go with JSOP and record what you actually do. That way if someone higher up takes a close look the paperwork matches the actual hours and there is less chance of a problem.
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OK, Knowing the PM on this I will get it for doing that and then charging over time when it's applicable, I will also get it for doing the hours at a time when there is little to do. Damned if I do, Damned if I don't.
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Bucking the trend here, timesheets are one of the many psychological tools to own you. One of the only potential use is for billing on gov't projects if you're working on more than one. Otherwise, s*** the man - you're salaried, right? (Though if you can accrue overtime in the classic sense, maybe not?) If salaried, put down 8 hours, no matter what you do.
The irony to that is, that's exactly what I've been told by management -- the system (and managers) can't handle less than or more than 8.
If you're hourly, who the frack cares? You're getting paid for the work you do when you do it.
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The issue this project has is too many companies, we used to be able to do everything, now we have to outsource things. This was a case of small company being bought out by big company and not really understanding what we do (or did) and choosing to buy in stuff we used to make and letting the skills wither as 'it's cheaper to buy it' you now get to state we are in now, people should have signed off on a bit of large gadget. They didn't want to, before the figures were published for this year, now we have lost these widgets to somewhere in South America... and yes it's for a government project!
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Exactly, as long as the work gets done who cares.
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has development really changed that much since I've been gone? I never punched a clock at work the entire time i was in the field.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Well I have always used if the work gets done all is good. However the attitude of those higher up is if the work is not done in regular chunks someone is being lazy...  (parent company does not do technology)
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ugh, i hate those situations. Parent companies make better customers than they do management.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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As someone who writes code for other people (now commercial, govt at a prior job); my bosses need a timesheet so they know how much to bill our customers.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
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That makes sense. I did keep track of my hours when I was contracting, but i never kept track of times, just dates. Nobody ever asked for more than that from me.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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my time sheets have always been in the form of just a day/billing code grid with space for a free form comment. So Wednesday 5h on project A, 3h on project B. But not worked on A from 8-9:15, 10:40-11:20, 13:10-14:25, 14:30:16:20, and B from 9:15-10:40, 11:20-12:05, 13:05-13:10, 14:25-14:30, and 16:20-17:00. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: my time sheets have always been in the form of just a day/billing code grid with space for a free form comment.
That's what I'm familiar with. =)
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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The joy of Government contracts being in chaos at the moment. As a company that used to do things who now rely on others, the worst part of it we have to account for every 15 minutes, so going over to the production and doing a quick test experiment to see if thing X does thing Y are a little hard to account for. We are run by accountants, I swear! I think the best comment was from the Drawing Office Manager "We were bought out by people that talk about work but don't do it'
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Ouch. We only had a 30m resolution at my last job and normally only track to that level at my new one which is coarse enough resolution that most nuisance items round down to 0 and we don't need to decide if a bathroom break should be charged to the project we wrapped up before getting up or the one started when we get back.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Now you have an answer to Bill Woodruff's question of what if you could time travel!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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If I could I wouldn't waste it on today, just interested to see what the opinion was.
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