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Hah! I happen to have a copy of VeeBeeOne that was distributed by shamans from the Microsoft tribe a long, long time ago. It took an extraordinary 5 floppies.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Would you like a full set of Microsoft reference books for MFC to go with that? 
Crikey! I thought I was the only one who saves stuff that long!
Will Rogers never met me.
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We've been having a lab cleanout the last couple of weeks here at work. I found an unopened, shrink-wrapped copy of MS-DOS 6.22, several copies of OS/2 Warp 3 and 4, and a stack of Windows 2003 Server CD's.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Is this from the same guy who was trying to get TFF going? (TFF = That's F***in Funny)
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If you elitists, you and everyone that replied above this one, think VB1 was bad, you should have tried Apple Basic. I wrote a payroll system in it.
I then moved on to GW-Basic (the GW stands for Gates, William) and did an Inventory, Invoicing and A/R system in that.
I've used VB1 through VB6 since then, over a reasonably successful 42 year career. I still work in both VB6 and C#. Languages are just a tool. If someone shoots himself in the foot with a shotgun while hunting, are you going to blame the shotgun, or the person holding it?
Someday some kids will make fun of the languages you are using, if you are lucky enough to last that long. Throw out the academic Kool-Aid you have obviously swallowed.
Newer isn't better, just different.
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Slow Eddie wrote: I've used VB1 through VB6 since then, over a reasonably successful 42 year career.
Could that have anything to do with you being used to the title "Slow Eddie" ? ? ? Slow Eddie wrote: Someday some kids will make fun of the languages you are using,
Possibly quite soon - their ability to comprehend abstractions or do anything that takes mental acuteness is diminished with each incoming text-message. GPS - make fun of those who use maps - perhaps because they can't?
Meanwhile, I have the fallback position of returning to FORTRAN.
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No.
Go to Netflix and watch a Paul Newman Movie "The Hustler". You may then get the reference...
Remember newer isn't better, Just different.
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And there was me thinking it was an American (or even English) tourist trying to pronounce Sauchiehall Street[^]. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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If you're still using GOTO and/or BASIC my deep condolences. There's no place for either one of them in modern Object Oriented or Aspect Oriented Programming.
Alas, any hyperlink to an internal anchor in a web page is a GOTO statement and #HashTags on Twitter and Facebook are actually the parameter for GOTO searches on them.
So GOTO is not going the way of the dodo, just transforming itself into something useful.
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OK - I had the impression that the idea was to make mobile phones "smarter and smarter" until they are fully computers with way-too-small monitors.
As it turns out, whilst I was distracted with life, the battle turned and went the other way as, in fact, it was the computers that are, instead, becoming phones.[^]
Once upon a time, when a journal "Language" came out, they gave an example of a simple program written in many languages just as a comparison (cube integers 1 through 10 via one function call, or equivalent). The title of the article was, "To a nail, everything is a hammer" - and now I see, expressed in the current mentality-vernacular, every device is a telephone.
OH BRAVE NEW WORLD!
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well once (not that long ago) computers lived in buildings or small (i.e. PC's) occupied part of the area on a desk. even including fuzzy logic washing machines still way less than 1 computer per human
...computers occupied a small amount of space amonst the humans.
these days: phones, cars, tv's, shoes, coffee cups, smart cameras, iot chickens etc, even counting the poor nations must be >1 computer per human
... is it now humans occupying a small amount of space amonst computers?
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W∴ Balboos wrote: "To a nail, everything is a hammer"
It's the other way around: "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail".
It's called "the law of instruments" (or of instrumentation; something like that), if you want to look up its origins (which I forget).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Just a guess, but if you ever take a survey I's suspect you'd find a lot more people who used something other than a hammer to bang in a nail but very few people who used a hammer to "nail" things together without an actual nail.
Your quote is ubiquitous, online - attributed to Mark Twain. The journal just swapped it because it was just coincidentally mapped the other way (i.e. a single problem with many tools to solve it rather than a single tool with many problems).
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Mark_Wallace wrote: It's the other way around: "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail".
I always carry a hammer. Estwing, 20oz, leather handle, 30 years old now. Great for smashing things I think of as nails.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I had a leather-handled one, but now I use the rubber-handled version, because you can use the other end for banging things into place (it saves carrying a rubber mallet).
The leather one has two rivets on the bottom, which doesn't do much good to wood.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I have a hand axe that when using the back end of the head doubles as a handy hammer.
When I carried my hammer in public no-one took any notice; however, when I switched to carrying my axe... 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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You became a hatchet man and that's different than a guy with a hammer.
or something like that.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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W∴ Balboos wrote: I had the impression that the idea was to make mobile phones "smarter and smarter" until they are fully computers with way-too-small monitors.
Bjarne Stroustrup had reportedly already made the observation that he used to wish his computer was as easy to use as his phone...and that he got his wish, because now phones are as complicated to use as computers.
Make of that what you will.
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back in the day you had these [^] & [^]
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
modified 4-Sep-19 12:23pm.
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I've heard that prisoners like reciting literature and poems. Guess being incarcerated has it's prose and cons 
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I read that
Trembling in fear;
Turning, I spat
My conscience now clear.
(+ for you, anyway)
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Another pun thread with neither rhyme nor reason.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Yeah, playing thebars is alway good for a blues song, too.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr.PhD P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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So today a Dell engineer will come to replace my SSD (and motherboard, if necessary) and take the old hardware back.
He'll be here between 08:00 and 17:00, which is quite a time slot 
I don't really want to do a lot of work since I've got everything backed up now, but any work I do will not be backed up immediately and it requires me to install some software that I'll have to reinstall later today (or tomorrow, depending on what time he's here).
So I am now faced with what's probably some law:
If I start now the engineer will be here as soon as I've installed everything and am just beginning to get to work.
Or I could do nothing and he'll be here at 17:00 
On a positive note, a customer just approved a new project which I get to do so there'll be plenty of work for the rest of the month (and probably next month too)
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It's a physical law, I suspect: we used to call it "taxifagging". As soon as you give in and light up a cigarette the taxi will finally show up ... unless you light up just to get it there faster ...
I no longer smoke, and as a result, I no longer use taxis either.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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