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ZurdoDev wrote: You suck Oracle!
It's a good summary! 
modified 11-Sep-19 20:18pm.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: Do you have a specific need for downloading Oracle's implementation?
No idea. It's for another product. But thanks.
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One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable<T> in .NET
"Greater than is less than"
What it means is
Converting
if(10>5);
to IComparable<T> it reads
if(0<10.CompareTo(5));
Note '>' vs '<'
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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K.I.S.A. - Keep It Simple A**hole; directed to myself
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Software Zen: delete this;
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goto.
Ducking and running.
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I have a few.
The popular "if you're doing single line if statements you're doing it wrong."
The equally catchy "only psycho's don't put spaces between their operands and operators."
And my personal favorite "what would codewitch do, do the opposite." 
And one that's not so much related to code, but to specs.
If it'll never happen, it'll happen soon (or it'll never never happen, but people don't tend to understand that one).
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Sander Rossel wrote: The popular "if you're doing single line if statements you're doing it wrong."
I had done quite a bit of Pascal programming when C came onto the scene. I have heard numerous arguments in favor of C, as opposed to Pascal.
One of the major arguments against Pascal was "All that writing! All those keywords! It is almost like COBOL!"
Essentially this referred to BEGIN-END. One-keystroke braces makes programming sooooo much faster...
I have argued a lot about the impact on productivity from two or three extra keystrokes. Or fewer! Before C, no modern language required parentheses around a condition! No modern language required putting braces (or other delimiters) around single statements! The parser expects a block, and a single statement is a block!
Then came this craze for LOC/day prouctivity measure. "My LOC/day is bigger than your LOC/day! So there!"
The more lines you can spend on trivial things, the better programmer you are. Rather than
if ExpectedRainfall > 0 then BringTheUmbella; you write
if (ExpectedRainfall > 0)
{
BringTheUmbrella();
} - some programmers would even give the "if" its own line, putting the condition on a separate line. And lots of C programmers consistently add blank lines around every conditional statement and every loop.
In the days of hardcopy listing, I frequently printed out source code double-spaced to give the impression of a lot of blank lines to make the code more readable. Screens were 24 lines tall at that time - that is not much. I wanted it to display 24 useful code lines, not twelve blank lines. I wanted that IF statement to use one of the 24 lines, not 4 or 5, plus a blank line.
With C, we replaced a four-character keyword with two sets of (), one set of {} and 3-5 more line breaks, to reduce all that typing of writing "then"... But the modern mantra is "doing it like that single-line Pascal statement is wrong! The 4-5 line (+ blank line) solution with three sets of delimiters added is the right way to do it".
I miss Pascal!
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They are serial killers, aren't they?
Or is that just me? 
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Don't write an if unless you know what the else does and why.
if and switch statements can be replaced with object inheritance. Let compiler do the work for you!
Anything can be written with map-reduce-filter if you try hard enough. Don't try too hard.
If you're about to write some code, stop.
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all good rules of thumb although the if/switch one gets sticky so that's a rule to be bent a LOT.
still, the idea is sound - don't use conditionals where you can use polymorphism
although in .NET the runtime still does work to cast 
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Marc Clifton wrote: Don't write an if unless you know what the else does and why.
I have seen programmers consistently adding "else /* do nothing */; after every "if" that doesn't have a natural "else".
I think that clutters up both the logic and the code. Lots of operations are conditional; you perform them when conditions are met. Otherwise you don't, but you don't have to say that expicitly; that is obvious! It follows from the very idea of a conditional operation.
Besides: I prefer to turn up the warning level to maximum while coding. When I take over code with zillions of empty "else"s, I get a zillion warnings about "possibly unintended empty staetement".
What is the real difference between an "if" and, say, a "while"? You suggest that you always should indicate an alternative action when the condition is not met. So how to you specify the alternative action when the "while" condition is not met? If you do not, why not? Isn't that a very similar situation? Why is it less important to know what to do if a "while" condition is false than when an "if" contidion is false?
Actually, I have used one language quite a bit where you could specify what to do when a "while" fails: you could conditionally break out of "for"-loops, and distinguish between breakout and completion of loop:
for listElement in listHead:nextpointer do
while listElement.key <> wantedKey;
exitfor
output ("sorry, the wanted key is not in the list");
exitwhile
output ("found! I can process this list element for you"):
endfor;This is actually a very nice flow control construction, which is a mess to duplicate in C if you want the "exitfor" and "exitwhile" claused to exexute within the context of the loop (e.g. with access to loop local variables), which is one of the essential points.
I honestly miss that flow construction. Why can't other languages offer it?
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I try to avoid adding a comparison to a comparison. And if I do I don't do Yoda conditions.
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heh. The yoda conditionals were hammered into me in the late 80s/early 90s.
The multiple comparisons are a necessary evil, as TKey isn't directly comparable. You have to use its IComparable<T> interface. Oh how I wish .NET would let you declare a contract on operators. You can't. It's a limitation of .NET's generic types.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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If you remember to put the constant on the left side, you also would remember to double the equals sign.
And why the h*** do we have to double the equals sign? This thread makes me miss Pascal so much!
In Norwegian, "yoda" sounds like "joda...", ususally pronounced with a sigh, meaning "yes, but...". I hear what you say, but I am certainly not sure that you are right. So "yoda" may be an appropriate term 
Pascal, and several other languages from that period, were designed by experts on formal languages, parsing etc. C is based on a collection of scraps left over from an early days space invation game implementation. OK, those students were certainly clever, but they were not experienced language designers.
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it's not just about remembering. It's about typos. A better argument is that compilers these days catch accidental assignment, but some of us have just had certain practices drummed into us for years and they stick.
Double equals sign is necessary in the C family of languages because there are different ways to do equality and assignment.
And you may find the C language family inelegant, but there's a reason they carried the day and pascal well... didn't.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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The big mistake was to use the single equals sign for assignment.
Many languages, from Algol to Pascal to ADA uses := for assignment. APL has a special assignment character. Lisp uses keywords. Classic Basic uses LET. The real probles is: Why does C use the equal operator for assignment?
Pointing to that is an explanation for why double == is needed for equal operations, but not an excuse.
If you try to suggest that C squeezed out Pascal because C is "better", you suggest (with great force) that your main field of expertice is not in formal language design.
VHS won the market becuse it was better, didn't it? And MP3 won over SACD/DVD-A because it was better? TCP/IP won over the OSI protocol stack because it was better? Well, that depends on the criteria. If your only crition is "degree of market penetration", all of these were "bests". But please don't pretend that this is only imaginable criterion.
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Better is subjective. I'm saying more people found it usable, which speaks to its versatility.
Perhaps it would have been better for C family languages to not use equals as an assignment operator.
But it's also both not the first thing about the language I'd change, nor does it say much to me about formal language design.
As someone who has written plenty of parsers and parser generators that accept formal grammars, I can tell you C's biggest sin is that type declarations need to be fed back into the lexer to resolve grammar constructs. This breaks the separation of lexer and parser. It's not quite as bad as python's significant whitespace but it's a pretty ugly thing to have to hack together in a parser.
But then, I'm not Niklaus Wirth. I'm just someone that writes code.
That being said, I don't holy roll. I use what works. Pascal doesn't. There just aren't modern tools for it. It's not quite as dead as latin, but catching up.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Think twice, write once.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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only twice? I find a bout of analysis paralysis followed by headdesking a few times is really the way to go.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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It's a metaphorical twice as in more than once.
Although I have found sometimes just taking a shot in the dark can be useful if you can learn from failure.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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I hear you. I just did that. But I learned from success. I mean, I was working from some sample code, in C++, on implementing B+ trees, but I ported it to C# and then rewrote it using .NETisms and adding features.
Then I realized it was almost pointless without a little database system going with it because it only optimized situations where nodes are directly tied to disk access.
On the other hand, I did the same thing with the regular B tree and it worked flawlessly, and is useful as an in-memory autobalancing tree structure (inserts and deletions are slow, searches are very fast and consistent - every search takes the same number of comparisons)
so woo.
but i guess someone already implemented one here. Not sure how mine stacks up, but it works.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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When thinking fails, code and fail to move forward.
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