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I don't agree with that. There are other professionals and artists that have similar incentives and drive.
BTW, UBI is a really-bad-idea.
And that's all she wrote.
#SupportHeForShe
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Amen brother. The only societies that function with UBI and no one ever having to work exist in science fiction and Star Trek (yes, I know that's redundant). UBI sounds like a good idea - like socialism, but it ignores the 80/20 universal rule - 80% of the work is typically done by 20% of a group.
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“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Unfortunately we don't really have a good forum anymore to discuss the political and socioeconomic impact of UBI, and how it really is not good for anyone in the long run.
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Slacker007 wrote: Unfortunately we don't really have a good forum anymore to discuss the political and socioeconomic
I suggest you ask for one in Site Bugs/Suggestions.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
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Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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swampwiz wrote: UBI are techies.
Find 2 techies that support UBI. My guess is you are one. Know any others? 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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ZurdoDev wrote: Find 2 techies that support UBI. My guess is you are one. Know any others?
Elon Musk, Andrew Yang (yes, I'd put him in the "techie" category).
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swampwiz wrote: Elon Musk,
Quote: Universal income will be necessary over time if AI takes over most human jobs
Quote: “There is a pretty good chance we end up with a universal basic income, or something like that, due to automation,” Musk told CNBC. “Yeah, I am not sure what else one would do. I think that is what would happen.”
That isn't support. Nor is a billionaires opinion on money really relevant to this discussion.
swampwiz wrote: Andrew Yang
Any idiotic Democrat who has no idea how the real world works. 
Find any actual techies (real people doing real tech jobs) that support UBI.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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swampwiz wrote: Elon Musk
 ah that just cracks me up, Musk of all people as a reference.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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I studied hard at school, got good grades, went to university and studied hard for years, got various jobs to build my experience. And you want me to just give people money for doing nothing?
Um.....no?
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I don't think it's related to social group at all...
More like people interested in science. Could be anyone.
(and you'd be surprised to know that many economist like the idea!)
there is no doubt could be good for the overall economy and everyone. The question would be.. what is the right amount?
Could be anything from 0 to a lot.. And certainly depends on local factor such as how automated is your economy and how many natural resources you have..
But, well... social and political experimentation is notoriously hard to do...
Look at all this people saying straight out forcefully no, not even stopping to consider whether it might benefit them indirectly or not (as in, a stronger consumer economy, benefits everyone, for example) 
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We already have UBI in place. The amount is currently set at 0 but that may change... ...eventually.
Wow! Did you see that flock of pigs flying by?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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swampwiz wrote: programmers are incentivized, when they have the time, to contribute to shareware - so we can see an economic system based on folks doing k3wl stuff for the benefit of all.
(emphasis mine)
Does this not describe open source, rather than shareware?
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dandy72 wrote: Does this not describe open source, rather than shareware?
Yes, this would include open source, which is basically a form of shareware.
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I think the definition of "shareware" has changed enough over time that most people have come to think of it as something that still includes a monetary incentive and has very little to do with sharing any source...whereas open source is just that, making the source available to all.
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Anything with the word "Basic" in it must be a bad idea. 
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Marc Clifton wrote: Anything with the word "Basic" in it must be a bad idea.
So shall I presume that programmers would be OK with it if it were called Universal C++ Income?
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When it comes to C++, very little is "universal".
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So if "basic" appears 23 times, there's a chance of a good idea?
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I post a message in the Insider News and I then see the following message dates:
1 hr 4mins ago
2 hrs 4mins ago
2min ago
6-Oct-17 12:02
6-Oct-17 15:08
So October 7, 2017 through October 24, 3:52 PM EST...as Mike might say, getting old is not what he expected.
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Guess the new AI routines are doing an excellent job 
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Yep, something strange ... at the moment just seconds before?... Now it looks good again
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Still looks odd for me. The first page has five threads from the last 24 hours, followed by three threads from September, two from July, one from June, and one from April.
I know there are a few forums here where that wouldn't be unusual. But the Insider News is much busier than that!
I suspect someone may have forgotten or messed up a WHERE clause on a DELETE statement. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Indeed.
They call me different but the truth is they're all the same!
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