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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Nothing tastes more like chicken than chicken, does it?
That is the basic problem with all the vegetarian products. They try to sell you the idea of making meat out of soya beans...
And because it is very hard to do it costs a fortune...
IMHO a vegetarian should eat vegetables that made to explore the possibilities of that... Granted that meat can have a very rich taste, but there are so much kind of vegetables you can combine, all you have to do is put some effort in it instead of looking for the fast food option...
(Yes I am a vegetarian)
And by the way, my mother used to fry vegetables in blintzes with different spices in it for ages - very simmilar what you find here... And good also...
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This!
I will never understand why some people have the need to create fake meat that taste like sh*t!
There are enough vegetables around that tastes good, that you don't need to.
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"tastes like chicken" : exotic and/or overpriced and/or a lot more work or/and ... 'things'
you really want to cook [more expensive] crocodile 5 X longer than chicken
cook hundreds of frogs legs [more expensive] for a tiny slither of meat
cook ordinary not chicken food in a way to make it taste like chicken
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what's wrong with ... ummm, chicken?
cheap, common, many supermarkets will even sell ready cooked (and later in the evening at half price)
and btw, tofu can not be made to taste like chicken short of blending no more than a teaspoon of tofu with a whole chicken and skimming off and throwing the crud that rises to the top when you cook it... and then throw the cooked remainder away because who want's to eat blended chicken?
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lopatir wrote: you really want to cook [more expensive] crocodile 5 X longer than chicken
I don't eat reptiles without feathers.
lopatir wrote: cook hundreds of frogs legs [more expensive] for a tiny slither of meat
Chicken is tastier and cheaper. I don't like kermit-meat, it has a foul taste.
lopatir wrote: cook ordinary not chicken food in a way to make it taste like chicken
You can't turn beef into chicken, the texture would be wrong.
lopatir wrote: what's wrong with ... ummm, chicken?
cheap, common, many supermarkets will even sell ready cooked (and later in the evening at half price)
Nothing! Well, they're showing commercials locally that chicken from a certain supermarket is too cheap. They're sold by the kilo (look it up if you used to pounds), which makes my freezer happy. According to commercials, I'm supporting chicken murder. I have to admit to that 
lopatir wrote: and btw, tofu can not be made to taste like chicken short of blending no more than a teaspoon of tofu with a whole chicken and skimming off and throwing the crud that rises to the top when you cook it... and then throw the cooked remainder away because who want's to eat blended chicken?
It can. It won't be vegetarian, but you can make taste tofu like chicken. Or beef. Or "vegetables", which has an indistiguishable salty taste. Or mushroom even, but that's about all the broth-tastes that are available.
Invite me, pay all costs, and I'll show you fried tjikken tofu 
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lopatir wrote: what's wrong with ... ummm, chicken?
MURDER!
Chickens are actually very social and kind birds.
They even want to sit on your lap, much like cats or dogs 
At least my parents' chickens do.
And they're surprisingly soft to the touch.
Even softer than a dog's or cat's fur 
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you can't house train birds.
.... so by all means, carry on and enjoy your lap birds 
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Yeah, although they'll try to get into the house 
They can walk around in the garden and when you sit outside in the summer they'll be sure to come say hello.
They're really nice birds once you get to know them 
Anyway, I don't mind that you eat chicken.
What I do mind is that these chickens are literally tortured.
They'll rip off their legs and beaks while they're still alive and leave them bleeding to death.
Same for other smart and friendly animals who are fully aware of what's done to them.
It really breaks my heart and it's so easy to treat them at least a little bit better.
And that sort of unnecessary cruelty is why I became a vegetarian 22 years ago 
If you've been following me you might now be tempted to say "but don't you work for a slaughterhouse?"
Yes I do and shush
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RickZeeland wrote: In our local Sushi restaurant this is one of our favourites: Shrimp Tempura 海老の天ぷら • Just One Cookbook[^] 
I don't eat insects either, don't care if they the swimming kind, just no. Even dogs sound tastier than sea-insects.
Almost the same recipe I used; difference would be that I used 40% starch (of the weight of the flower used), half a teaspoon of baking powder, and a spoon of sriracha.
Drizel in honey-garlic(-jalapeno) sauce, and let me hear any complaints
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Haven't tried any insects yet, sadly the local shop that sold them went bust last year.
They seem to be crispy though
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RickZeeland wrote: Haven't tried any insects yet
Then why even come with the suggestion?
RickZeeland wrote: sadly the local shop that sold them went bust last year.
They seem to be crispy though
So is mud in tempura batter. Nice and crispy.
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Fried flying ants is the total of my experience with eating insects. Not a bad taste at all, kind up nutty.
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
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I eat surprisingly little tofu
Maybe once or twice in my Hello Fresh box, or in a restaurant, but I've never bought it myself.
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Why did he assume you eat tofu?
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Because I'm a vegetarian, I guess.
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I'm not, I'm assuming he doesn't eat chicken.
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>> For Sander; works equally amazing with (salted) tofu
Anyhow, I love chicken and tofu. all good, IMHO. 
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Slacker007 wrote:
Anyhow, I love chicken and tofu. all good, IMHO.
It was part in jest, and it is not "all good"; it depend on who's cooking. I would generally eat meat every day, boiling it until dead, dry and safe. Then someone explained the basics of cooking (took two years!) and things changed.
When I buy chicken, I go for the thighs because fat gives taste, and wrap it in bacon; most children will prefer the breast, since it doesn't contain fat, bloodvessels or sinews. That's where I was surprised by tofu; it has a similar texture, and is more welcome than real chicken it seems. Not really vegetarian, since I crumbled a chicken-broth cube over it. Deep fried in tempura, and you have something that tastes like a chicken-nugget.
I'm not a vegetarian, but I must admit I'm learning a lot about cooking from those who are. Never heard of "blintzes" as Kornfeld calls them, but sounds like a fried mini-pizza.
From all things I learned, cooking was the most rewarding.
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I have recently had some Vegan dishes that knocked my socks off - really, that good. I usually do not mix tofu with meat products/broth, but it makes sense, since Tofu cooked correctly is supposed to absorb or "take on" the dominant flavor of whatever is cooked in/with.
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Slacker007 wrote: I have recently had some Vegan dishes that knocked my socks off - really, that good.
Ditto; had a pizza that made me want to eat more, even though it didn't contain meat (nor mushrooms, nor tofu or anything similar).
Slacker007 wrote: I usually do not mix tofu with meat products/broth, but it makes sense, since Tofu cooked correctly is supposed to absorb or "take on" the dominant flavor of whatever is cooked in/with.
Only for non-vegetarians, since the broth cube is (usually) not vegetarian. I guess that any broth-cube might work, even mushroom or veggies.
Was an instant hit though. Next time I will omit the cube completely and try only taco-seasoning
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Sigh. https://codeburst.io/software-architecture-the-difference-between-architecture-and-design-7936abdd5830[^]
Not expecting to read anything actually of worth, I was not disappointed. I did find this sentence though highly amusing, under the header "The Definition of Software Architecture" (my bolding):
> Quote: This definition leads us to ask about the characteristics of a software that can affect a software architecture design.
The rest of the article, IMHO, does nothing to shed light on architecture vs. design. Even worse, the concept of "architecture" is defined in terms of buzzwords like "Serverless Architecture" and "Microservices Architecture". Useless.
I find the definition of "architecture" in wikipedia to be must more (pun intended) concrete:
> Quote: The art and science of designing buildings and (some) nonbuilding structures. The style of design and method of construction of buildings and other physical structures. A unifying or coherent form or structure.
Replace "buildings" with "software" and I think you have a much better definition! Still, it seems that one cannot define "architecture" without using the word "design." 
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I consider "design" to be about the UI, while "architecture" is about how the code is structured.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I consider "design" to be about the UI, while "architecture" is about how the code is structured.
For whom is the UI? For an end user it's one thing. For a developer it's something else entirely. In both cases, the underlying structure of the code is important. Architecture is about that structure.
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First link on Google: "Architecture is a plan for the structure of something. Design is a plan to create something. An easy way to think about the difference between architecture and design is to consider the architecture of an office building as compared with its interior design"
I often complain I'm not hired for "design"; what colors and fonts your app will get doesn't concern me. I only care for the logic, and whether the application returns "correct" results.
Design can be left to marketing, as long as they accept to adhere to the UIXguide
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