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F-ES Sitecore15-Jan-20 0:54

F-ES Sitecore

15-Jan-20 0:54

musefan wrote:
Of course, but I meant if the loss is big enough to justify it.

Stupid numbers now, but if the site was losing £1m per year from closing soapbox, it might be worth hiring a mod team for £500k per year to keep it functioning. For example.

If the site is losing 50p a year... sod 'em. Just one less Freddo in the staff tuck shop

Using that logic why don't we start showing porn videos? It's got nothing to do with the aim of the site, but it'll bring in money....

musefan15-Jan-20 1:02

musefan

15-Jan-20 1:02

Fine by me. Might as well use the internet the way god intended it to be used.

But on a serious note: finding new ways to increase revenue isn't the same as finding ways to mitigate loss of it.

super15-Jan-20 1:36

15-Jan-20 1:36

F-ES Sitecore wrote:
It's got nothing to do with the aim of the site, but it'll bring in money....

Are you sure? Many are shutting shops Blush | :O

cheers,

Super

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super15-Jan-20 0:47

15-Jan-20 0:47

OriginalGriff wrote:
and they'd have to be on top of the kind of abuse being served up in GIT, which I for one am not as it's a cultural thing than needs cultural knowledge I just don't have

IMHO, this section was never monitored. It was Full blown Slugfest in there and few members knew when it was crossing line and tried to bring some sense but Sleepy | :zzz:

cheers,

Super

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OriginalGriff15-Jan-20 0:55

OriginalGriff

15-Jan-20 0:55

The spam / abuse autodetector worked on it, but the subjects were so alien to westerners (and in the case of the Cricket Wars all sentient lifeforms) that most of the abuse was impossible to detect except to other Indians. And they mostly just got rude in return. Sigh | :sigh:

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super15-Jan-20 1:37

15-Jan-20 1:37

OriginalGriff wrote:
The spam / abuse autodetector worked on it, but the subjects were so alien to westerners (and in the case of the Cricket Wars all sentient lifeforms) that most of the abuse was impossible to detect except to other Indians. And

Any topic which are only guys responding for more than 3 post is flamewar Smile | :)

cheers,

Super

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ZurdoDev15-Jan-20 2:24

15-Jan-20 2:24

musefan wrote:
After all, traffic = revenue.

Sort of. A lot of people here block ads. Therefore, traffic = more cost, not more revenue. Sigh | :sigh:

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musefan15-Jan-20 2:38

musefan

15-Jan-20 2:38

Yeah I guess they do. I only recently added this site to be allowed to show ads after Griff mentioned it the other week. Before that I hadn't even thought about it as my ad blocker blocks everything as default.

Maybe CP should implement a "please don't block us" feature. It could even be unobtrusive and simply be a message that shows in the same space (and dimensions) that the adverts currently show.

Personally I have always though that the advert industry is one of the biggest cons in the world. Problem is, if we all admitted it then it would probably crash our economies.

ZurdoDev15-Jan-20 3:05

15-Jan-20 3:05

musefan wrote:
is one of the biggest cons in the world.

True, but that's how we get free tv, free radio, free internet, etc.

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W∴ Balboos, GHB15-Jan-20 3:45

W∴ Balboos, GHB

15-Jan-20 3:45

ZurdoDev wrote:
that's how we get free tv, free radio, free internet, etc.

Nothing's free.

Ultimately the cost of advertising is rolled into the cost of the items.
Furthermore, take for example "drug" advertisements. They've caused problem with patients basically demanding the newest (and often deadliest and amazingly expensive) drug for their real or perceived condition. I take one drug that, expensive as it was, my prescription plan didn't blink at the cost. Originally. Then the advert's started and now I need annual ore-authorization for it.*

One can go on and on with similar examples. It's really a matter of paying up front or paying indirectly.

* it really is the advert's fault. At the time I started this medication, one that was 20x cheaper did require per-authorization for more than the initial prescription (long-term use). It was heavily touted on TV.

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ZurdoDev15-Jan-20 3:48

15-Jan-20 3:48

W∴ Balboos wrote:
Nothing's free.

Yes, thank you. Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

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dandy7215-Jan-20 4:50

dandy72

15-Jan-20 4:50

musefan wrote:
Having said that, reducing the volume of nonsense posted in Soapbox has probably saved a few quid in itself

Exactly. I can only speak about the soapbox, but even if it had gone down, would anyone really miss that traffic...?

ZurdoDev15-Jan-20 2:26

15-Jan-20 2:26

My traffic has gone way down, but I'm sure no one misses it. Big Grin | :-D

The Lounge is usually very boring especially since it has become Codewitches facebook feed (no offense to honey). The few times someone does try to have a serious and good discussion in the forum there are more nonsense replies than good ones.

There isn't much value to CP. Even the people asking questions are lousy at asking questions but that's about the most I do here anymore (trying to answer questions.)

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super15-Jan-20 2:33

Just got back from the vet...

15-Jan-20 2:33

I come to Lounge first thing in the morning for CCC and eager to see the "thoughts of the day" by @OriginalGriff and occasional "Get my Coat" Jokes.

ZurdoDev wrote:
The Lounge is usually very boring especially since it has become Codewitches facebook feed (no offense to honey).

I agree but this has reduced dramatically, so its ok.

ZurdoDev wrote:
There isn't much value to CP. Even the people asking questions are lousy

For me the valuable part is the articles, Insider news and of course the competition which makes me realize that the "new" technology is beyond me and so I should work hard in my current job so I can retire peacefully without the need to learn the "new" cool trick

cheers,

Super

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Sander Rossel14-Jan-20 5:22

Sander Rossel

14-Jan-20 5:22

And I wish this was a joke, but it isn't Frown | :(

Cat has been unwell for a week, eating bad and not having energy.
The vet took some photo's and it's either an inflammation or a tumor Frown | :(

I can give her some antibiotics, but pills are pretty much impossible with Nika so that would have to be at least three trips to the vet every two weeks and hope it goes away.
The other option is to get a scan and be sure if it's the one or the other.
In case of a tumor they have to do another check to see if it's treatable.
I'm going for the scan and hoping for the best.
If they can scan next week the chances of it being treatable, if it's a tumor, are higher than after the six weeks of antibiotics.
I very much hope it's just an inflammation caused by her chronic sneezing disease.
Unfortunately, all I can do is wait Frown | :(

To end with a joke... Would they do a CAT scan or a PET scan?

Best,
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Eddy Vluggen14-Jan-20 5:35

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14-Jan-20 5:35

Best wishes for Nika Rose | [Rose]

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Daniel Pfeffer14-Jan-20 5:40

Daniel Pfeffer

14-Jan-20 5:40

Sander Rossel wrote:
Would they do a CAT scan or a PET scan?

They do an NMR - No Mouse Required. Smile | :)

Hope everything turns out OK.

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Mike Hankey14-Jan-20 5:42

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14-Jan-20 5:42

Best wishes for your friend.

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honey the codewitch14-Jan-20 5:43

honey the codewitch

14-Jan-20 5:43

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope for the best for your cat. I lost my maine coon to cancer so I understand. They're family.

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Greg Utas14-Jan-20 6:20

Greg Utas

14-Jan-20 6:20

A Maine coon?! That's quite the familiar.

honey the codewitch14-Jan-20 7:22

honey the codewitch

14-Jan-20 7:22

Don't tell my other kitties but he was my favorite.

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Sander Rossel14-Jan-20 20:18

Sander Rossel

14-Jan-20 20:18

honey the codewitch wrote:
I lost my maine coon to cancer so I understand.

Sorry to hear Frown | :(

honey the codewitch wrote:
They're family.

They really are.
Nika and I eat and sleep together.
When she's in a lazy mood and doesn't sit with me I really miss her.
That's always now (had to carry her to bed yesterday while I usually can't carry her at all) Frown | :(

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Sander

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honey the codewitch15-Jan-20 0:42

honey the codewitch

15-Jan-20 0:42

I wish you both well.

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