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In theory, yes - but we aren't at sea level (which means the temperature at which water boils is lower), the atmospheric pressure is low today (ditto), kettles don't "boil" water anyway.
And most important of all, it's a cheap thermocouple (or thermistor, I'm not sure which)... 
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OriginalGriff wrote: but we aren't at sea level (which means the temperature at which water boils is lower)
But you aren't at 8000 ft either.  I doubt you're even at 800 ft.
And while 1000 mB (at sealevel) is slightly less than 1013 I don't think it affects the boiling temperature even noticably.
OriginalGriff wrote: And most important of all, it's a cheap thermocouple (or thermistor, I'm not sure which)
Oh, that's definitely affecting the reading quite a bit, but if it's six degrees off you should consider buying a new one.
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Assuming you just dumped water from your kettle directly into the bottle I also suspect a burst of rapid heat loss as the interior of the bottle is warmed from room temperature is probably a bigger factor than anything short of possible measurement error in your thermometer.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
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General answer to all of LiberO:
Because it is developed by software developers. Alone, in isolation. Their only contact with Real Users of the products is indirect: Real Users have contact with developers of commercial products, LiberO developers look at commercial products trying to determine how they convey the Real Needs of Real Users.
Developers of development tools are their own Real Users, knowing their own needs and requirements. So non-commercial, open software development tools are generally high quality. For most kinds of tools not related to software development, the situation is like for Liber0: The developers are just guessing what to develop, which qualities to provide.
I never regretted spending money on commercial office packages, sound editors, video editors, 3D drawing systems, sound encoders, ... Software that is developed by software developers in cooperation with Real Users.
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Yeah I'll hop right on that wagon.
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Gawd, I know it was a stupid thing to do, but I just downloaded and installed it.
• Install on a VM that has office 2010 (the highest I will ever go)
• OK, so "Run RH2 when I click Finish", checked.
• Click finish.
• It doesn't run. I Should have known better.
• Because it's ms bloatware, give it five times as long as I would give any other company (except adobe), then give up and open Word.
• It displays a full-window clipart-ish picture, and starts playing f***cking music! Really loud, elevator music!
(It's already got me swearing, and I haven't even opened the f***ing thing, yet!)
• The only way to stop the music appears to be by locating and clicking the "Play" button, which is as small as they can make it, with a caption font-size big enough to read.
• However, I note that there's a "settings" icon, and click it. The music stops.
• No "Shut this f***ing music up!" option. In fact, the only option is to allow them to slurp data, which is on, by default.
• Select "Go f*** yourselves"1, and exit "setting" (singular).
(1 artistic license)
• The music starts again.
• Click the loudspeaker icon, which, thankfully, gives me an option to mute the music.
• Close and re-open RH2 and Word, to see if the mute option sticks. It doesn't.
• Click the Play button,
• A really dire comic strip is displayed, which scrolls ridiculously slowly (seriously, you'd need a reading age of minus 5 to keep up).
• Ignore the stupid comic-strip intro, and just click anything that will advance the process.
• The full-window clipart-ish picture disappears, and Word's title-bar (Yes, I've re-implemented them) reads "Document1 - Microsoft Word (Not Responding)"
• Three minutes later (with a quad-core, sh1t-off-a-shovel chip and a 4-gig graphics card), Word goes full-screen with a read-only document, telling me to change the font for the whole document from comic sans to calibri (neither of which I would ever use, but there you go).
• Change the Normal style font to calibri (which I can do quickly and efficiently, because I have toolbar buttons).
• It makes a REALLY LOUD "victory" sound! Seriously, I cannot stress how f***ing loud this noise is! A guy three offices down had a heart attack!
• Minimise word, to add the above entry, but find that the "Hyuk hyuk! Y'all did it!" pop-up (I paraphrase, to imply the correct tone) is set to stay at the top of the Z-order, so I have to dismiss it before I am allowed to do anything else.
• Another mindless, and mindlessly slow scrolling, comic strip, that I scroll past in total ignorance of (and lack of interest in) its content.
• Click to go to the next task.
• ...
Microsoft Word has stopped working
Yup.
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So I take it you're not happy with it.
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I confess that I was happier with it after it crashed.
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Quote: that teaches you how to find elusive Office commands
Why don't they just make Office 365 easier to use? It's amazing how simple things, like editing the subject line which is only possible if click on the "expand" diagonal double headed arrow button. So intuitive!!!!
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Their whole design philosophy seems to have become "make things harder and slower to do, as long as it meets some idiot's concept of coolness".
Look at how much immediate, one-click functionality was lost, when some idiot decided that making scrollbars (annoyingly!) disappear would be cool, and how they made editing table properties an endless grind, because another idiot thought that pop-up lollipops were a cooler way to add rows and columns than using right-click options (they later restored the right-click options, because almost everyone hated and disabled the lollipops, but all the other functionality was still broken).
I blame wikipedia, for being such a flighty and inaccurate source of information. The X in UX is for experience, not exasperate.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: when some idiot decided that making scrollbars (annoyingly!) disappear would be cool
A while back someone here posted the fix for that.
Disable Windows 10 hiding scroll bars - gHacks Tech News[^]
Note that (at least on my machine) I had to actually type in "hide scroll" in the "Find a Setting" search box to actually see the damn option!
Quote: The X in UX is for experience, not exasperate.
Now there's a quotable!
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Marc Clifton wrote: Disable Windows 10 hiding scroll bars - gHacks Tech News[^]
Yup, but it only works in the main (richtext control) pane of Word, for example, and not in any sub-panes (e.g. the Styles pane, which can contain hundreds of useless styles, if a document has been through too many hands).
It also doesn't restore the "instant" navigation options that were at the bottom of the Word scrollbar (which, when you start to use them, quickly become invaluable), or the show/hide ruler and split-screen buttons at the top of it.
So, as usual, they've broken lots, then half-fixed part of it because of a huge amount of complaints, but left most of it broken.
All because someone had a cool* idea.
* Read: Not even remotely cool, and even less useful
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I dunno,
this "Ribbon Hero 2" from Office Labs sounds 'interesting' - bit of shoot-em-up action
...any spoilers, a super mode? ...anyone?
woo hoo! free download of not-so-free stuff from ms!!
and if it's a "2" means there will be more editions! more upgrades, new icons!!
wonder if they'll one day bring back 1 click printing and other such like that made life simple
more likely already thinking implementing to take cut/copy/paste off the keyboard and bury that in the stupid rippon.... IT'S MODERN!
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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An Office game? Great ... now, how do I activate "No Clippying"?
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Hey, don't forget to:microsoft said: Race for a high score with colleagues, classmates and friends, or even put your score on your resume to show off your Office skills!
[Wayne Campbell mode]
Are they mental?
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IDSPISPOPD
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A
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The Earth is not only very flat - it's also very hard! 
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From the article:
Quote: "Mad" Mike Hughes, 64, crash-landed his steam-powered rocket shortly after take-off near Barstow on Saturday.
There's something about the term "steam powered rocket" that seems more English than American. Somehow I get the picture of something steam-punkish with pistons pumping up and down and clouds of steam everywhere. The pilot is in an open cockpit wearing a leather helmet with goggles, sporting a mad grin. "Tally Ho!"
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So much more appropriate than the "white suit and a fish bowl" the Americans prefer.
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His last words were "hold my beer"
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