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I received my census code in the mail today (to fill it out online.) On the envelope it says that a response is required by law. Interesting.
I see a lot of people on here that are concerned about privacy issues. Just curious how you will treat the census. Will you fill it out? Will you put in accurate data?
I filled it out. It didn't take long.
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I do, and honestly because it's been a valuable source of historical information and it's worth keeping it going, I think.
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The last to census' I was blessed with "the long form" - and it's rather intrusive. It took a while to fill out. It was an invasion of privacy - but actually NOT my right as a US citizen to ignore: it's a constitutional imperative. Aside from being illegal, ignoring it is, in the aggregate, a loss to one's community at all levels. Population based resources will be short-changed due to your not being counted.
Fill out the wrong information? In this case, to what end? I've thoroughly scrambled my on-line identity. Only financial institutions have the correct information on things (again, by law). Even the 'special questions' are not answered with real personal info, but with a systematic code that can be deduced from each site so memory isn't a problem.
In practical terms, even without my cooperation, I doubt they'd ask for something Google didn't already know
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: I doubt they'd ask for something Google didn't already know
And if they didn't, add in FarceBok & LumpedIn and you probably cover pretty much everything else.
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I have a very, very good friend who works in the Bureau of Statistics back home. They don't give two hoots about you personally (no offense intended) but they need to see the trends. Canada removed the long form a couple of years ago and is now paying the price of trying to pilot the ship half blind. It's been a case study in Australia as to what not to do.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: Aside from being illegal, ignoring it is, in the aggregate, a loss to one's community at all levels. Population based resources will be short-changed due to your not being counted
Amen. So, so important. Annoying, sure. Misguided, sometimes. But without a doubt incredibly important.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: In practical terms, even without my cooperation, I doubt they'd ask for something Google didn't already know
Not to even get started on what your credit card company knows about you.
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Chris Maunder wrote: Canada removed the long form a couple of years ago and is now paying the price of trying to pilot the ship half blind
I think this ship being piloted half-blind has more to do with the politicians we (repeatedly) elect than the removal of the long form census.
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The census is authorized in the Constitution, which makes it one of the few things that the federal government does that is actually authorized.
For the purposes of the Constitution, the census could be satisfied (if memory serves) by two questions:
- How many people live here?
- How many are legally eligible to vote?
All the rest is none of their business. But most give government a pass even when it does things that would land others in prison, so the census is rather lame by comparison.
If I received the long form, it would go into the shredder unless my humor was in fine form, in which case I'd have a lot of fun.
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While the guv'mint is required to do the census, no individual is required to participate.
And, most likely, for anyone who is "missed" there is another who gets counted twice. I know my little sister was counted twice in 1990, but that's good, she's a nice person.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: no individual is required to participate.
13 U.S. Code § 221 but the 1984 Sentencing Reform Act increased the penalties for refusal to answer or purposefully answering falsely to a $5000 minimum (and still up to 60 days in jail). Now, realistically, unless the Census Bureau shows up at your house and you still refuse to answer, I highly doubt this would be enforced.
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Jon McKee wrote: doubt this would be enforced.
And how would they know? But mainly, there's no requirement that everyone be home.
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Yea, realistically if you just never answered the door I doubt they could do anything. Can't prove that they successfully contacted you so can't prove that you refused.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: And how would they know?
Because they mail a code to your house.
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Jon McKee wrote: Now, realistically, unless the Census Bureau shows up at your house and you still refuse to answer, I highly doubt this would be enforced.
Of course it won't.
According to them, you don't exist, so they won't be able to see you.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: According to them, you don't exist,
Try not paying your taxes--I think you'll quickly find out they know you exist...
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: no individual is required to participate.
Not what it says on the envelope.
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Don't believe everything you read.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Don't believe everything you read.
Check. 
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I fill it out and do so accurately. To be paranoid about it and refuse or fill in incorrect data is just stupid. 
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I agree. But I find it very interesting how often people complain about data being collected about them but so far the census doesn't seem to bother anyone. 
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I've yet to see a government census as invasive as anything advertisers insist upon, so my paranoia is still targeted at the latter only.
(but then I've never received the long-form version, and that one no longer exists in Canada)
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I always fill it out and give accurate answers.
and every time it happens, I'm always disappointed that I don't get the long version.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I am Spartacus!
I wonder how many people have done that.
And can you USian nutters still enter "Jedi" as your religion?
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Quote: Pass me a bread knife!
You're the one looking for the bread knife - and you call us nutters? 
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I'm not looking for one. It's right there -- hand it over, and assume the position.
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