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Where's the CCC?
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Sorry chaps Team meetings all morning plus I forgot - I can put one up tomorrow if that's ok with everyone ?
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Fine by me - I was going to reboot it tomorrow if you hadn't posted in the next hour anyway. 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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... to keep the pace:
As seen in jab, reach of pro miserably failing to meet expectations? (6,2,7)
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As seen in jab, reach of pro miserably failing to meet expectations? (6,2,7)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Well done.
So, how are my copy and paste skills ? 
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How many letters?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Musk buys DodgeCoin "for his kid"; goes up 16%; driven by his groupies.
Now says: "... too much concentration among major holders".
He'll "support you" if you sell now.
In other news: Canada ok's "worlds first kleptocurrency ETF"; an "unmanaged" fund.
SEC has previously passed on an ETF due to concerns of "market manipulation".
"I don't understand what's going on but I want in..."
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Kind of related[^]
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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On the other hand, you can't store hydro power. But I agree, the heat alone could grow a lot of vegetables.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Quote: SEC has previously passed on an ETF due to concerns of "market manipulation".
I don't know whether to hoot in derision or look away in embarrassment at such a statement from the same clowns that did nothing about Bernie Madoff after having been repeatedly warned. And the idiot whom Biden just appointed to run it, Gary Gensler, was the former head of the CFTC. They were told for years about manipulation in the forex, gold, and silver futures markets, but found nothing. Later, several major banks were charged with precisely that kind of manipulation; the most recent settlement was with JPM, which had to fork over $900M. Less than what they gained by it; no criminal charges for the execs, naturally; and no restitution for the small traders who were harmed. But penny ante manipulation compared to what central banks and other actors in the "official sector" do all the time.
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Reagan appointed Greenspan
Clinton let him run amok at the fed for 8 years
Bush continued the mistake.
Look where that got us. We'd be ridiculous to believe none of them knew better.
The truth is, all those {elephants} - "elected" or not, work for the same people, and it ain't you or me. 
Real programmers use butterflies
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Ever since Volcker, each Fed chair has been worse than his/her predecessor, much like the Presidents.
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And it is not over yet...
Do you bet that the action of the internet retailers against the hedge fond will end in more rules that retailers will have to cope but the biggest players will be able to ignore without consequences?
M.D.V.
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Not sure what you're talking about here. But regulations are often written, at least in part, by the regulated, who are "consulted". They still have to comply but have the means to do so, whereas the overhead is far more onerous for smaller competitors and new entrants.
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Greg Utas wrote: But regulations are often written, at least in part, by the regulated, who are "consulted"
And that's the big problem.
Greg Utas wrote: They still have to comply what doesn't necessarily mean that they do as they have the power to avoid punishment if they don't
FTFY
Greg Utas wrote: whereas the overhead is far more onerous for smaller competitors and new entrants.
As in everything else... small fishes mostly have it more difficult and get eaten by the big ones.
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I have zero clue what you're talking aboot.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Then you should buy: the "mark" of a true "currency" speculator investor.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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 Yeah... time to whine a little bit, but since I started programming and studying CS i feel like I don't have any life left. It's not like I had great life before and something to miss, but even for an introverted and book-loving person that I am I feel like programming is consuming my soul entirely. I don't even have time to rest, because it would mean the end for my degree. If I study for two or three hours in a day it's actualy me resting. If I don't spend at least 8 hours a day on studying, it's over for me. I'm gonna be kicked out of the school and I don't even have chance to get the job with my current skills. It's impossible for me to survive this degree studying just 3 hours a day.I feel also this constant pressure to learn things above the school curriculum to stay relevant on the market because I don't feel like I'm going to be able to do my job after I get my degree. This feeling that I have to reschool myself again and again to stay in this business makes me sick. I really enjoy programming and it seems like I have predispositions to do this job but I feel this software engineering is crazy (!) If I would study that much for example medical degree I already would be a doctor and at least I would know that I can do my job after these years of studying, and than go back home and read a book, meet with friends, have some time off. But this is not how it will be if I work as a programmer. If I work as a programmer, I have to go back home and read another tutorial of another new language and another framework, and study another new technology, another field of CS, becuase if I don't I can't do my job anymore, and I'm irrelevant and replace by 18-year's old python-linux-algorithm-AI- virtuoso I feel like Neo, trapped in matrix and don't have any contact with the real world.I became even more socialy backward
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Member 14971499 wrote: I feel also this constant pressure to learn things above the school curriculum to stay relevant on the market because I don't feel like I'm going to be able to do my job after I get my degree.
It happens to all. I lost 2 semesters due to that because I had the impression of "not learning that much" and hence I thought "I am not going to pass" and wanted to avoid wasting one of my 3 chances to do the exam.
Member 14971499 wrote: This feeling that I have to reschool myself again and again to stay in this business makes me sick
That's going to happen anyways, you will need to continue learning the whole life if you want to stay "on edge", even if you only specialice in C# there is new things coming constantly, so you need to keep up-to-date
Member 14971499 wrote: I really enjoy programming and it seems like I have predispositions to do this job
that's the most important thing
Member 14971499 wrote: but I feel this software engineering is crazy (!)
have you not been lurking here? That should be pretty obvious looking at some of us  
Member 14971499 wrote: If I would study that much for example medical degree I already would be a doctor and at least I would know that I can do my job after these years of studying
No way... not even possible to compare. And I know what I say, my wife is dr. med.
Member 14971499 wrote: If I work as a programmer, I have to go back home and read another tutorial of another new language and another framework, and study another new technology, another field of CS, becuase if I don't I can't do my job anymore
That's not really true. Because the most important is not all what you know. The most important is the set of skills.
It is impossible to know about all. There is a lot of damned good programmers here and even they can't keep track on everything.
And additionally, depending on the company you are probably not going to do the same over and over again, so you will need to adapt on the fly.
And that's what is really important. The ability to learn by yourself, to think analytically, to understand processes, to see / to find logic in things, to be creative searching for solutions...
My technical knowledge is pretty average, on the one side, because I forget things when I don't use them and on the other hand because I think it is better to be apprentice of many things that master on one thing.
But careful, I am not telling you only need to learn "enough" to accomplish the requirements of a task.
I am telling that, if you have to do something, try to give your best, not only for the project but to be proud of your work. That will imply to learn about the topic of the day and with time will come experience. That is what matters.
Member 14971499 wrote: I feel like Neo, trapped in matrix and don't have any contact with the real world.I became even more socialy backward
That's something you really have to try to avoid. We all are more or less socially restrained but only because you can meet people personally, it doesn't mean you can't have social contacts.
You need balance, if not you are going to get burned out before even getting started.
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well... with the current pandemic many people have no life! 
if you don't find this enjoyable while studying, perhaps it's not for you?
I always find programming easy! ^_^
(to be fair I didnt study IT, I have a Physics PhD instead, and was enjoying doing numerical simulation of physical system...)
Programming is a bit addictive I found... BUt then you are nothing like trapped, if you give in to the addiction you quickly master you subject so well than you can take any brwak you like!
If it's not the case, perhaps it's not for you...
Other than that, yeah for easily 20 years I had the feeling there was always much I needed to learn and known... but now I am finally on the other side.. I still have to learn, but it's no biggie most time! ^_^
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At the risk of sounding harsh, I don't think many of us "have a life" any more. I haven't "met with friends" for a very long time, but it's nothing to do with IT. I expect 90% of the world population is asking questions like "what's it all for?", "why do I work so hard?" when there's precious little way to enjoy the fruits of our labours.
I'm semi-retired (trying to be more so) but yes, for me, working 3 hours a day is also "resting". I would say before retirement, an 8-hour day was also an "easy" day, and back when in college (not IT) again, an 8-hour study day is an easy day.
And as Nelek says, if you don't like study / learning then working in IT is not for you. If I'd not continuously been studying and learning, I'd still be writing out Cobol instructions on coding sheets and waiting for the punch girls to enter it onto the cards.
Oh, and 14971499, do change your username to something a bit more memorable!  Good luck - but it's up to you to decide if you want to persevere or give up and, [desperately trying to think of a job that doesn't require ongoing learning]... sweep the streets?
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They can study for 10 hours a day and more. They are my role models. I wish I could be as hard working as them, but I only managed do a session like that for a dya and I was burn out the next day. I don't know how they do it. Do they do drugs or something? 
I'm always this student who loves to learn everything that isn't related to my school curriculum. When we study algorithms in school, I want to study GUI, when we study GUI, I want to study algorithms, when we program backend, I want to program frontend 
I never was a top student, I was bad student but hard working. Now, I'm neither excelling anyone in grades or my hard work and I feel like my special skill is gone and there's nothing left