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If you crossed a Gazelle with a Melon, would you get a Cantelope?
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That's pretty seedy humor.
/ravi
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I think his wife put that on his honeydew list.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Why so bitter?
PS. Had to look gac up, as I didn't see how global assembly cache was related. 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Isn't that what you get when two melons fall in love against their parents' wishes and are imprisoned to prevent them marrying?
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My daughter is trying to choose her major in college. Of course, I want her to be a coder, just like good ol' dad, but...
She is the butterfly of all extroverts and she wants to choose a career that will allow her to be with people... A LOT. She cant think of anything more dreadful than being stuck in a cubicle all day. (Her one computing class just reinforced her suspicion that software development is a boring, lifeless, punishment for introverts only.) She's vivacious, outgoing, creative, hilarious... and wants to major in Theatre. But she is also very smart at things like math and "puzzles" and logic.
Last night I assured her that there are a lot of software jobs that are filled with outgoing and extroverted people (but inwardly I felt guilty for inventing such a fiction). Seriously though: do you know any social butterflies that have found a satisfying niche in the software industry?
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Yes. Programmers need someone to talk to the end users to figure out what they want. She could be a translator. Business Analyst?
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kdmote wrote: Seriously though: do you know any social butterflies that have found a satisfying niche in the software industry?
Does it matter? Why are you looking for others to help justify your desire for her to follow in your footsteps? Let her choose her own path, and then support her in whatever SHE chooses.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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Fair reply. And honestly I very much intend to support her choice, whatever it may be. Its not that I want her to follow my path; I just want her to maximize the God-given potential that is so evident in her. I don't care what she chooses; I just want to help her make a choice that she will be thrilled with (and one where she is likely to find a job she enjoys). Her theatrical aptitude is fantastic; but her technical aptitude is also, and I would like to encourage her not to shun the latter in her ambition for the former.
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Why do you assume that the theatrical route precludes the technical? Very odd given the vast range of technology now in use in film, theatre, and television. And does she really need coding to exploit her skills therein, anyway?
Clearly it's nonsense to say that you don't care what she chooses. You obviously do or you wouldn't be asking the question in the first place!
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Dude, you don't need to pick a fight. I'm just asking whether extroverts can thrive in a technical job. I presume that they can, but I'm not one, and I don't personally know any, so I would like to hear from those who are or do.
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She could, of course, find an outlet for her technical abilities in the theatre. where do her theatrical leanings point? Is she a performer or a theatrical technician with her roots in stage management, props and set, lighting, sound etc?
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So... Game development?
I'm in a career that has totally changed since I was in College. Other than that first job, the biggest benefit of higher education is probably social - making connections to people that
- didn't grow up in the same place, go to the same schools and know the same people,
- and whose parents weren't from the same mine / factory / office / air base / farming district / religious group.
Help her learn to tell a good place to work from a bad one, and that it's fine to leave a bad, or even a fairly good job, for a better one.
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kdmote wrote: She's vivacious, outgoing, creative, hilarious... and wants to major in Theatre
DavidCrow wrote: Let her choose her own path, and then support her in whatever SHE chooses.
If she goes into Theatre, chances are that Dad will be supporting her. 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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I've met and worked with lots of introverts. It'll help if you get a job at a "digital agency" that does everything, as there won't just be coders there, but designers, marketers etc.
If you want to see if she is suitable for life as a developer then this is what you do; ask her to paint the exterior of the house from top to bottom, to mow the lawn and the lawns of your neighbours, then clean all the windows of your own house and those of your neighbours. Tell he she has to do it in a single day, and when she's done don't say anything. Don't congratulate her, don't thank her, just say nothing. If never getting thanks or praise for the work you do upsets her, then development isn't for her 
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When I was in college, one of my classmates was someone who had worked as a night auditor for 8 years... and wanted a career change.
After a couple of years, he realized this wasn't exactly what he wanted, but was able to merge both his past experience and current training... he got a job as the liaison between the accounting department and the computer department as a company.
For him, it was the perfect fit.
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Reminds me of the Monty Python sketch, where the fellow wanted to be a "Lion Tamer", but decided to take a smaller step and move into accounting.... 
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kdmote wrote: that are filled with outgoing and extroverted people
She needs to pass this test:
- What are the actors names of the original Star Trek series?
- Who is HAL?
- What is the connection between THX and Star Wars?
I strongly suspect she is looking for a different group of outgoing and extroverted people.
I'd actually suggest social work, psychology, or teaching.
Marc
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Oh she'd pass that test, all right. (She is attending this weekend's ComicCon dressed in a home-made Kylo Ren costume, if that tells you anything.)
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Teaching is a good idea - if she also likes wearing body armour...it's getting dangerous out there! 
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It takes all sorts: the stereotype of the shy anorak-wearing geek sitting meekly in the corner is long dead. When I first tried to get an IT job I was told I was too extrovert. That was clearly nonsense.
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kdmote wrote: I want her to be a coder
Why, it's her life, let her do whatever she wants. and the chances are that whatever she chooses to major in, she will find other interests as time goes by and could easily end up working in a completeley different field. As with all things in life one learns as one goes along.
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