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Thanks for the answer. Of course i know that writing a complete replacement that can do at least what explorer.exe can do and more is not a one man job, or a one man job for the coming 2 centuries. But i have no such ambitious plans, i am just after learning something new, to expand my knowledge, see what could be possible and what not.
Richard MacCutchan wrote: If you mean just one small part then perhaps you could expand on your requirements.
-i don't understand what you mean by expanding requirements, i probably lack the "proper english" here...
> The problem with computers is that they do what you tell them to do and not what you want them to do. <
> Sometimes you just have to hate coding to do it well. <
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Code-o-mat wrote: -i don't understand what you mean by expanding requirements,
Well your original question was "Do you know of any good guide about writing a shell replacement for windows in VC++". So what do you mean by a Shell replacement? What do you expect your version to do? You might like to take a look at some of the open source projects around to see what they offer and whether reading some of that code will help you.
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i think Saurabh.Garg (here's his post[^]) got it right, i am/was looking for some general guide, something that would explain exactly what tasks a replacement for the graphical shell has to fullfill, i mean from the system's point of view, not the user's, i guess it isn't simply just replacing explorer.exe with something else (changing the registry entry that points windows at explorer.exe to make it run some other program instead upon logon) and done, i read on some forum that the shell has to perform some special initializations in order to work (and of course these were not listed). Looking thorough those codes is a good idea, it might be very hard though to understand it without any basic idea of what exactly the intent of the whole thing is...hmm, they however might have comments in the code that might be very usefull and shed a lot of light onto the whole thing, thanks.
> The problem with computers is that they do what you tell them to do and not what you want them to do. <
> Sometimes you just have to hate coding to do it well. <
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Code-o-mat wrote: i think Saurabh.Garg (here's his post[^]) got it right
Strange, that's what I said!
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You mean a replacement for explorer.exe? Take a look at qmmander[^] - not an instruction, but at least it is open source.
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Thanks for the answer, however, i am not exactly after yet another file commander program (althorough qmmander does look interesting  ), i would just like to learn a bit about how windows' graphical shell ticks and how one would go about replacing it with something else, i just feel like experimenting some (probably on a virtual windows install).
> The problem with computers is that they do what you tell them to do and not what you want them to do. <
> Sometimes you just have to hate coding to do it well. <
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Hi,
Sorry for intruding on this thread, but I'm following it with interest.
Your list gives only alternative shells for the older OS's.
I would be most interested in an alternative shell for Vista and Win7, mainly one that will roll back the security settings and look and feel to something similar to Windows XP.
Regards 
Bram van Kampen
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You can always change Win7 to use Windows Classic and turn off UAC.
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Hi,
Thanks.
Well, to tell you the truth, I have not even tried Windows 7 yet. All our customers are running on either Win98, or Win XP. We tried to run on Vista, that was a disaster, even with UAC turned off. Maybe Win7 is better.
I am preparing an article about the larger issues at hand for applications which are not cutting edge technology driven, and could survive live quite well with older technology.
Licencing terms and MS Monopoly will be the main issue there.
Regards,
Bram van Kampen
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Thank you.
> The problem with computers is that they do what you tell them to do and not what you want them to do. <
> Sometimes you just have to hate coding to do it well. <
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I don't think there is a general guide like one you are seeking. You should list the features you want in your shell and if during implementation you encounter problems I am sure people here can help you out.
-Saurabh
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Thanks for the reply, i don't have any specific plans for it (yet), currently i am only curious about the means and hows of doing such a project, the basic idea of it all, what such a replacement has to do to work with the system from the point of the system itself, now really from the point of the user, for example i read on some forum that the shell has to perform certain initializations (these were of course not listed) in order to work right, so i guess it isn't just a simply replacing a program (explorer.exe) with anything else...oh well, i guess as Richard MacCutchan suggested[^], i will have to study some opensource projects.
> The problem with computers is that they do what you tell them to do and not what you want them to do. <
> Sometimes you just have to hate coding to do it well. <
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Hi,
I am beginner to VC++. Now I want to develop an application where window divided into two parts. left side i am having tree view and right side display information.
I already implemented tree view using SDI application (CTreeView).
Now I want to implement a tree in CFormView. How can i write a tree implementation in CForm View.
Please suggest me the solution. Also If you have any references related to this please send me.
Thanks in advance........
To invent something, you need a mountain of junk in your mind.
---------------------Thomas alva edison
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One solution is to use a spliter (CSplitterWnd) to split the view into 2 parts, the left side (for example) will contain the tree, and the right side will contain the "information".
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You can consider a tree control (CTreeCtrl) for form view.
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Hi All
I want to make a dialog based application which have send mail.I have no idea how can i do this? Plz help me
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Have a look at CodeProject articles about MAPI [^].
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Member 6864839 wrote: I want to make a dialog based application which have send mail.
Those are mutually exclusive things. Which are you having trouble with?
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ok i need to send mail example.
Please help me
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See here.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
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I'm new here, please bear with me.
I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to put it, as my question is regarding C++, but for OWL rather than MFC. Anyways, down to the problem:
I'm maintaining some legacy code which involves a multi-line listbox. The contents of this listbox are loaded in through the EvDrawItem function. The EvDrawItem gets called repeatedly. While selecting an object, the cells in the listbox are selected one at a time too, and we are manually painting it in (not sure if this is the right way to do it). This becomes noticeable only when the items are long.
Now, here's the biggest part of the problem: when double-clicking on an item, we are supposed to pop up an edit box. While this does happen, the double-clicking is seen to cause the item to do cycles of "select, select, de-select, select"...about 50 (each cycle is made up of 4 EvDrawItems) times (is this normal???).
With some research, I do feel that I should probably make use of the setredraw and invalidate functions, but I'm not sure where's the best place to put these codes in so that they propagate through the rest of the program where similar listboxes are used.
Also, since the draw and the insertions are handled together, would suppressing redraw affect how the list loads up?
modified on Friday, January 29, 2010 2:45 PM
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Look at the documentation for the WM_SETREDRAW message. It's used to disable/enable redrawing of listboxes.
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Hi,
Thank you for your response. Yes, I've already looked at that, and I do feel it would help, just trying to find the best place to put it. However, I'm still not sure why it does the "select, select, deselect, select" thing so many times on a double-click. I would suspect it's not a normal behaviour even without disabling the redraw.
Thanks!
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Rock Bottom wrote: However, I'm still not sure why it does the "select, select, deselect, select" thing so many times on a double-click
Yeah, I'm clueless on that one. Sorry.
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