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GuyThiebaut23-Sep-13 2:37

GuyThiebaut

23-Sep-13 2:37

"ex" - because I see too many numpties out there on the road to feel any where near safe.
I now prefer my 7 airbag car Poke tongue | ;-P

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Rage23-Sep-13 2:46

23-Sep-13 2:46

Well, even without the numpties, biking is a nonsense itself. Driving faster than 25km/h with only 2mm leather as a protection is a no-go.

~RaGE();

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harold aptroot23-Sep-13 3:10

harold aptroot

23-Sep-13 3:10

Bicycles also go over 25, usually without even leather protection..

Mark_Wallace23-Sep-13 3:23

23-Sep-13 3:23

GuyThiebaut wrote:
I now prefer my 7 airbag car

Your choice, but I think I'll stick with my four-wheel one.

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Nicholas Marty23-Sep-13 2:38

Nicholas Marty

23-Sep-13 2:38

I don't even know if I would even want to drive again if I would have caused death to someone else... Sniff | :^)

Rage23-Sep-13 2:43

23-Sep-13 2:43

I would at least buy a bigger car, so that I don't notice the next time.

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

Rage23-Sep-13 2:42

23-Sep-13 2:42

GuyThiebaut wrote:
you are shown to have caused the death by driving illegally you should lose your license for life

On a serious line, no. You cannot 'ban' someone at the first mistake, may it be because they killed someone.
- People killing while driving will be sentenced with a good load of jail, and even if they do only 20% of the sentenced time, nobody likes jail. This is their punishment.
- They will have a hard time passing their license again, believe me. In France, the medics have to give clearance to be allowed to pass it again, and this is rather hard to obtain.
- Banning will cause the people you want to prevent from driving with such a measure to drive without license anyway, and will prevent the few ones who made a terrible mistake once in their life from being allowed to drive gain. So you are basically punishing the wrong ones.

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

GuyThiebaut23-Sep-13 2:51

GuyThiebaut

23-Sep-13 2:51

I am not interested in punishment when it comes to this whole area - I am interested in keeping dangerous drivers off the road.

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

― Christopher Hitchens

Rage23-Sep-13 3:02

23-Sep-13 3:02

My point was, among others, that dangerous drivers will drive with or without license.
I have also speeded sometimes in the past, maybe 1 out of 1000 times I take my car. If I happen to kill someone on that very day, am I a dangerous driver ? Can you tell me that you
have _never_ driven over the speed limit in your whole biker life ? Not a single time ?

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

GuyThiebaut23-Sep-13 3:09

GuyThiebaut

23-Sep-13 3:09

I allegedly did over a ton and a quarter within a few weeks of getting the 600 - I never did it again.
The person killed through dangerous driving does not get a second chance so why should the person responsible get a chance to kill again?

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

― Christopher Hitchens

Forogar 23-Sep-13 3:58

Forogar

23-Sep-13 3:58

Quote:
a chance to kill again

Every driver on the road has a chance to kill someone with their four (or two) wheeled death machine. Why do we allow it at all? Since moving to the USA I have seen more bad driving and near misses than in my entire life prior to this because people here see driving as a right rather than a privilege and the driving test is ridiculously easy to pass.

Life is a risk, live it!

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chriselst23-Sep-13 4:23

chriselst

23-Sep-13 4:23

Rage wrote:
My point was, among others, that dangerous drivers will drive with or without license.

The guy who was driving in the original story was already banned from driving.

“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

Mark_Wallace23-Sep-13 3:16

23-Sep-13 3:16

PB 369,783 wrote:
he will be jailed for 4 years and banned from driving for 3 years

That much!

Damn, but that's Cruel and Unusual Punishment.

I mean, he only killed a guy whilst intentionally using a lethal weapon that he had no license to operate.

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Forogar 23-Sep-13 3:54

Forogar

23-Sep-13 3:54

Quote:
said the pair had been out shoplifting when the crash happened

What about charges for that?

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Nagy Vilmos23-Sep-13 1:00

Nagy Vilmos

23-Sep-13 1:00

Arrg! Grr! and Feck!

Mrs Wife is away for two days at the Labour Conference [no she isn't a member, she's there as an accredited guest] and I am home with the girls. Youngest didn't want to go to school because she 'didn't feel well' today and eldest's school have just phoned that she has a mysterious 'sore tummy'. Bollocks I call it, I have told the school that she can wait half an hour and if she's no better I'll go and pick her up. I don't believe I'll be called back.

I am sure there is a large correlation between Mummy being away and the Ickles playing for Daddy sympathy. This is eating in to my sleeping on the couch time and such intrusions will not be toleratated.

speramus in juniperus

Mark_Wallace23-Sep-13 1:04

23-Sep-13 1:04

Nagy Vilmos wrote:
she's there as an accredited guest

What, she's getting elitist treatment?

Wot abart the workers?!?

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Nagy Vilmos23-Sep-13 1:19

Nagy Vilmos

23-Sep-13 1:19

B'locks to the workers! It's not all fun and games, she actually has to attend the conference and report, with respect to Hungary, what the speeches are all about. She's packed well, a change of underwear and a blouse, and went down this morning on the train. Today she has to listen to Balls's B* and then to make matters worse go to his reception tonight. The chances of her having a proper meal over the next 36 hours are just slightly shorter of me not having a bloody large drink!

speramus in juniperus

Mark_Wallace23-Sep-13 1:32

23-Sep-13 1:32

Nagy Vilmos wrote:
B'locks to the workers!

... Says the man without a job!

Way to give a good impression to HR ~~morons~~ workers who google your name -- or is that the plan:
"I didn't get the job, Honey, so you'll have to keep working to bring back the bacon and gin".

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Nagy Vilmos23-Sep-13 1:39

Nagy Vilmos

23-Sep-13 1:39

As Nagy Vilmos is my nom-de-net, I am reasonably sure people can't google me and find too much.

A quick go and I can find a single news article [I attended a jazz concert and am pictured drinking with Mrs Wife] and my public profiles on the linkedin and some other job sites.

This stuff is anonymouse. Ish, as some people know my real identity[^]

speramus in juniperus

hairy_hats23-Sep-13 1:48

hairy_hats

23-Sep-13 1:48

Never trust a man in a pink shirt...

Jörgen Andersson23-Sep-13 2:06

Jörgen Andersson

23-Sep-13 2:06

I'm not going to say you're wrong, but when I was on vacation in the US I saw this huge biker on his chopper wearing leather trousers, a leather west, a steel helmet and a pink t-shirt saying: "Real men wear pink".
I wasn't prepared to disagree with him.

Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES!
Abraham Lincoln

H.Brydon23-Sep-13 4:21

H.Brydon

23-Sep-13 4:21

The whole "real men wear pink" phenomenon is a promotional thing involving men who are somehow connected to one or more women who have or had breast cancer. I have a couple of said T-shirts from some fundraisers a few years ago. I don't wear them any more but I supported the program.

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- Harvey

Jörgen Andersson23-Sep-13 11:16

Jörgen Andersson

23-Sep-13 11:16

Ah, Thanks for the info. It only adds more respect.

Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES!
Abraham Lincoln

PB 369,78323-Sep-13 2:10

PB 369,783

23-Sep-13 2:10

I'm surrounded by 6 of them at the moment. They do an unofficial thing here called Pink-Shirt-Monday where - you've guessed it - you are suppose to come in in a pink shirt on a Monday. The guys that do it chide the rest of us as they reckon 'only real mean wear pink' and they think they look cool.

In reality they look like they live together and have put a white-wash on without knowing one of their lacy knickers has ended up in the Machine too. Incidentally I also own a Pink shirt but when I wear it I make sure it's a Tuesday.