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IMHO. It's not a comparison between the two development frameworks but a reflection of what we have out-there today. On the point where he states that there are differences he has no numbers to show.
I do develop with ASP.NET and PHP too and there are a lot of areas where you just can't simply compare them...
Both are good for certain things but not interchangeable like a pair of socks...
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Asp.net, because I've worked with it. As simple as that.
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It does look like he started off by choosing PHP then wrote this to justify his choice rather than an analysis of the the products, and by dismissing SQLServer for MYSQL rings bells for me, not sure Id like to trust big business to MYSQL, they seem to choose SQLServer or Oracle for some reason!
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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ASP.NET. I never used PHP..
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We don't want to do the e-commerce platform from scratch. Any pro e-commerce plugins are available for Asp.net ? The ones I saw for Asp.net looked average.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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Well, our ecommerce software is build in house, mainly java based (other developing team). My skills for that kind of development are basic, my main tasks here are client / server software in C#.
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Hi Vunic,
Could you please suggest where I could get these plug ins...
Regards,
Dinesh Kumar.V.
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For me it would depend on the hosting options. When choosing ASP.NET you're going to restricted to a Windows server, while with a PHP site you can settle for a Linux/Unix server. So when it comes to hosting, PHP would be less expensive.
It would also depend on my needs, if I need a lot of custom development I might go for the ASP.NET route (but again, it depends on the budget. Choosing ASP.NET will probably end up being more expensive). But if I can settle for an existing CMS framework (e.g. Joomla) I'd definitely go for PHP.
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This comparison has probably been done over 9000 times now.
It has never been done fairly.
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I have programmed in both languages...
But why you question "Comparison is fair?" when your answers are:
"Asp.net, because I've worked with it. As simple as that."???
Or "ASP.NET. I never used PHP.."???
Please use logic and facts, not just answer like "ASP.NET because I dont know PHP." Of course if you just know ASP.NET then in your case is better develop in it, than learning another language.
Your answers are not fair either! 
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Something as simple as selling clothes and a 3 month requirement I'd go for one of the e-shop-in=a=box options - developing my own would be more fun, but why re-invent the wheel?
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
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through experiance I would say the problem with "out of the box" is when the customer wants all blue clothes to be 4% more unless the customer in called mary then its 8% unless its the 3rd tuesday in the month when its -3% unless its.... well you get the idea
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Sure- and that's where a customisable out of the box option comes into its own - the customer pays you for an out of the box option, then you customise the 'third Tuesday' options.
Thing is, if a solution would take (say) $20k worth of development, and an out of the box one costs, say, $500 there's an awful lot of scope for simply making manual changes to prices/special offers etc.
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
.\\axxx
(That's an 'M')
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I have programmed in the both languages and my choice are PHP, but I must say that, this comparison is unfair!
And I must say too that the article dont tell any lies 
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Possibly the most ridiculous comparison I've ever seen. Maybe I'm biased, too, but as soon as I see someone writing "ASP.net" or "ASP.Net" my skin crawls.
It's not just about the language or the OS. It's about the tools and libraries available, the support community behind it, and the total cost of ownership.
They both have huge communities, and both have tons of libraries. There is definitely a cost associated with using Windows as a server (as there is when using Linux - both will need someone's time to setup, configure and manage - time isn't free), but VS Express is free. ASP.NET is free. MySQL / MariaDB and MongoDB are free and can all be used with ASP.NET. Oh, and CodeProject and StackOverflow are both written in ASP.NET.
The question comes down to: how much time do you have to build the site and what are you willing to pay developers to get it done? Rails with CoffeeScript and MongoDB is actually a fantastic language to rapidly get a site completed end to end but you'll pay through the nose to get good devs who know how to do it properly. ASP.NET in VB will mean a much large pool of devs to pick from, but you won't get to brag about the backend.
My personal opinion:
If you're paying for it then use the tool that gets it done properly, fast, and for the lowest total cost.
If you're a developer work in the language and framework you enjoy most and/or gets you the biggest paycheck. Just don't go preaching your religion to others simply to rationalise your own choices.
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Thanks for the reply Chris!
Since the available time is quite short, and we have less-experienced developers we are trying to use existing e-commerce plugins. Our company's skills are a bit MS inclined. Asp.net looked a natural choice for us. But we get lot of negative feedback against Asp.net for e-commerce when we looked out for opinions. LAMP & e-commerce CMS plugins is what the crowd suggested.
We thought about taking a look at RoR & bragable stuff, but we don't have resources for it at the moment. We are planning to go with Asp.net MVC + Azure if needed. Working out on Azure costs.
For the e-commerce plugins, these options looks decent for Asp.net:
http://www.nopcommerce.com/[^]
virtocommerce.com[^]
btw, if you are granted a magical wish - Over night CP could change into a site running on RoR or PHP, with 100% exact replica of what it is now, would you go for it ? or you'd love to continue with Asp.net  ?
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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Vunic wrote: btw, if you are granted a magical wish - Over night CP could change into a site running on RoR or PHP, with 100% exact replica of what it is now, would you go for it ?
No, absolutely not.
a) I don't know PHP and my Rails is rusty (so to speak) so my output would go down dramatically
b) I would use something else 
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Chris Maunder wrote: I would use something else
I know it's POWASHELL 
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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Chris Maunder wrote: but as soon as I see someone writing "ASP.net" or "ASP.Net" my skin crawls.
Well, Microsoft added to that by using ".net" in some of their earlier logos instead of ".NET"
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I ranted about that 13.5 years ago. I think I'm over it now. Maybe.
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Oh man.
The hairs are still standing up on the back of my neck.
Brilliant.
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Ghost chup.
Leeegend.
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What accent and/or people were that?
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