|
|
|
|
|
|
I was intrigued by the link in today's CP Daily News to the new add-in for Visual Studio from Microsoft Labs, "Bing Code Search," that creates a code-search facility using code from "MSDN, StackOverflow, Dotnetperls and CSharp411."
A short very low-fi video demonstrating this add-in is here: [^].
The UI for this critter appears via IntelliSense (displaying initial results depending on context), as you type: I have yet to find any UI thing to click, or keyboard combo, to activate it on-demand.
I found it interesting that CP was not among the content providers listed for this wonder, but, I am not saying that to make any kind of "point," or imply any criticism of CP ! I trust that if it buys new Marshall Amps for Bob and the Hamsters, we'll see code on CP there in the future; if not, macht nichts.
I am just curious about what kinds of contractual arrangements (both legs of the first-born ?) Sauron of Redmond made with such (relative) Hobbits as StackOverFlow. I've never heard of CSharp411 before, and I have never visited DotNetPerls. I cannot imagine a worse source of mis-information than MSDN !
I find it interesting to think of what the next crop of homework-shirkers and wait-until-just-before-the-exam CP QA forum rescue-me posters might do with this add-in. Perhaps we should expect even more massive code-dumps ?
I installed this critter in Visual Studio 2013; it has yet to appear even though I have been typing what I thought were some tantalizing keywords as bait. I wonder if it's compatible with the EAP beta ReSharper I'm using now.
"Will wonders never cease?"
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
“How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice.
“You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
|
|
|
|
|
We've been involved in many, many VS and MSDN search initiatives over the years.
Here's an interesting test: can you name any community based search initiatives from Microsoft from the past 14 years?
|
|
|
|
|
Chris Maunder wrote: can you name any community based search initiatives from Microsoft from the past 14 years?
Hi Chris,
Well, no, because: after I made my vows to Bob ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif) twelve years ago, in the Chapel of the One True Hamster, I was faithful ... well, okay, that thing with StackOverFlow ...  ... that was just ... you know ... a few one-night stands; any get-togethers with SO now are just like so platonic they could be a video to "We've Only Just Begun" by Karen Carpenter.
cheers, Bill
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
“How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice.
“You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
|
|
|
|
|
BillWoodruff wrote: Well, no, because: after I made my vows to Bob [Rose] twelve years ago, in the Chapel of the One True Hamster, I was faithful ... well, okay, that thing with StackOverFlow ... ... that was just ... you know ... a few one-night stands; any get-togethers with SO now are just like so platonic they could be a video to "We've Only Just Begun" by Karen Carpenter
I...don't know what any of those things mean. I mean, I know what a hamster is, I've been to Stack Overflow and remember that song. But... I think my brain just fell out.
|
|
|
|
|
BillWoodruff wrote: so platonic they could be a video to "We've Only Just Begun" by Karen Carpenter
Hey now! I liked the Carpenters back in the day.
Software Zen: delete this;
|
|
|
|
|
Chris Maunder wrote: can you name any community based search initiatives from Microsoft from the past 14 years?
Wrong Forum. 
|
|
|
|
|
Blue Waffle wrote: Wrong Forum.
You do realise that Maunder owns the site, don't you?
For future reference, if you want to poke the Maunder, you refer to his attempt at drinking with me and Brycey way back when the Internet didn't have pubic hair.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
|
|
|
|
|
Michael Martin wrote: You do realise that Maunder owns the site, don't you?
Does Nagy know about this?
|
|
|
|
|
Just out of interest: Where did your signature go?
Just 'cause mine's gone, too
|
|
|
|
|
Chris Maunder wrote: Here's an interesting test: can you name any community based search initiatives from Microsoft from the past 14 years?
None. But then I don't remember seeing announcement/adverts for any them either. If you include the insider news, I've seen Bing code-search add in mentioned from four different sources in the last few days (and one of those sources was someone who'd seen it in two different sites from the ones I saw it on).
Another reason this is different IMO: it facilitates the laziest type of copy-and paste coding (which currently seems to be the favoured development methodology by the majority if Q&A etc is anything to go by) right in the middle of the IDE as you type. Code monkeys [^]* across the world must be weeping at the beauty of it.
* Sense 1, though with the inference that they are also cut-and-paste merchants
|
|
|
|
|
Bill, not knowing the reason behind your link I will say I'm surprised to read about Dotnetperls. The bloke who did it, Sam Allen, has essentially left it alone for a long, long time. He's got some good stuff published but he's also got stuff that is decorated with large bitmaps but whose content is not so good; you can do a lot with window dressing. Perhaps MS are exhibiting a protest vote. Whether they'd put CP and SO in the same basket of preferred sites is questionable. They have to choose one or t'other so it makes some sense they'd go for SO. After all, if Bing is what you do then it's better not to include the best site to go with it. You can't polish the proverbial turd so why adorn Bing with gold trinkets. 
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
|
|
|
|
|
Ave Atque Vale, Frater Septimus,
I admit to blissful ignorance of both Bing and DotNetPerls.
However, I can't quite understand your statement: "Whether they'd put CP and SO in the same basket of preferred sites is questionable. They have to choose one or t'other so it makes some sense they'd go for SO."
In my view CP and SO are two different planets; to compare them is to pit gemeinschaft vs. gesellschaft, Dionysian vs. Apollonian, Reese's Peanut Butter Cup vs. Ferrero Rocher, etc.
For me, CP and SO together constitute the complementary critical resource for Win programming, with MSDN running a very dismally lame third.
Who knows ? There may be a non-public back-story here; if MS came to CP and said "give us your flocks, and your fields, your land, your houses, and so on, and we'll give you ... glory:" then I'd hope CP said something like: "we'll think about it for a few decades, thanks."
To such eructations produced by excessive mentation, we apply the carminative of ... silence.
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
“How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice.
“You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
|
|
|
|
|
BillWoodruff wrote: In my view CP and SO are two different planets; to compare them is to pit gemeinschaft vs. gesellschaft, Dionysian vs. Apollonian, Reese's Peanut Butter Cup vs. Ferrero Rocher, etc.
In much the same way in Spanish soccer where you choose between Barcelona and Real Madrid. You have to endorse one or the other even though they are among the best clubs in world soccer. I see CP and SO the same so mebbe I'm showing partisan support for the one I know is the best. 
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
|
|
|
|
|
Now Microsoft just needs to add Bing Reward Points to this, and then... I will just re-write everything I have ever done, by inserting code-dumps (finally word 'dump' has a real meaning here) from random sources, and earn free lunch stuff everyday. 
I am glad that Code Project is not a search provider in this particular case. It would be waste of resources and time.
Clearly, Microsoft Research has put a lot of efforts building that tool, but not every cool stuff is useful.
|
|
|
|
|
Rutvik Dave wrote: but not every cool stuff is useful.
cf: the Ribbon, Windows 8, ...
They do appear to be slow learners sometimes... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
|
|
|
|
|
OriginalGriff wrote: cf: the Ribbon, Windows 8, ...
...Surface.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Message Automatically Removed
|
|
|
|
|
Now I'm damned curious. What the heck could you possibly have posted that was removed so fast that I didn't even have time to blink? 
Never mind. If it was that controversial, you probably shouldn't post it again. 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
-----
The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
-----
I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
|
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
