|
JimmyRopes wrote: Vegetarians who eat vegetables because they feel anything else would be harmful to their body are not necessarily saying that they refrain from eating meat for any other reason.
Hmm, interesting point  I have never thought of vegetarianism as about me; to me it has always been about non-violence, i.e., about the animals.
My relatives are almost all vegetarians, I know hundreds of such people; but the ones who use neither silk nor leather number in the single digits.
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread 
|
|
|
|
|
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: to me it has always been about non-violence
I can understand the leather but why not silk? Of course we eat the "silk worm" (caterpillar) here so we do harvest them, but do you necessarily have to kill them to harvest the silk cocoon?
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
|
|
|
|
|
Yes, the worms are boiled alive to get the silk  I've seen it on a school trip at a very young age and it left a lasting impression.
I hear something about some new fangled silk that doesn't involve killing the worms, but it's very dubious. Given people will stoop to anything to sell their wares here (I see local sweets with gelatin as an ingredient regularly marked as vegetarian*) I am extremely sceptical of these claims.
* Foodstuffs must be marked as vegetarian or non-vegetarian by law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian_mark[^]
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread
|
|
|
|
|
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: But I'm with you on the leather thing - I find vegetarians who proudly show off their leather shoes and car interiors deeply hypocritical.
Depends on why they are vegetarian. Most vegetarians, specially of Indian descent, that I know of are that way not by choice but due to being raised that way. They don't have any morals that their diet is based on nor do they profess a love for animals. Similar to how meat eaters don't eat every single animal out there - it's what you are used to.
That said, you'd be surprised at the number of Americans who eat fish and yet claim to be vegetarians 
|
|
|
|
|
Nish Sivakumar wrote: Most vegetarians, specially of Indian descent, that I know of are that way not by choice but due to being raised that way. They don't have any morals that their diet is based on nor do they profess a love for animals.
Yeah, that's my point - they do it because they were raised that way. Almost like a religion.
I'm not religious, but am a vegetarian and do not use leather either. Still no success in getting the women to give up silk sarees though 
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread
|
|
|
|
|
Now Google for 'vegetarianism health benefits' or something similiar. You'll find the exact opposite 
I've been a vegetarian for 16 years and I'm pretty healthy. Never sick, no allergies, etc.
|
|
|
|
|
Sander Rossel wrote: Now Google for 'vegetarianism health benefits' or something similiar
Did you actually try it before posting?
|
|
|
|
|
Yep. And those benefits are pretty sweet!
Just to sum up a few:
Vegetarian foods are a major source of nutrition for most people in the world.
Vegetarians have lower rates of heart disease and some forms of cancer than non-vegetarians.
Vegetarian diets can be simple and easy to prepare.
According to the ADA, vegetarians are at lower risk for developing:
-Heart disease
-Colorectal, ovarian, and breast cancers
-Diabetes
-Obesity
-Hypertension (high blood pressure)
You'll ward off disease.
You'll keep your weight down.
You'll live longer.
You'll build strong bones.
You'll be more 'regular.'
The list goes on...
Just saying A LOT has been said about food and a lot of that is contradicting each other.
|
|
|
|
|
Sander Rossel wrote: Just saying A LOT has been said about food and a lot of that is contradicting each other.
You summed it up pretty well there.
|
|
|
|
|
Just about every study that has found vegetarians live longer has said it is most likely that is because they are less likely to smoke and almost certainly nothing to do with diet.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
|
|
|
|
|
yeah!!
Thanks & Regards
Puneet Goel
Save Paper >> Save Tree >> Save Huminity
|
|
|
|
|
Adolf Hitler was an Austrian vegetarian.
Hmm...
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
|
|
|
|
|
Now, what did the study say about mental health? 
But then again, it could possibly be another mixup of causation and correlation?
|
|
|
|
|
Hello CPs
I would like some ideas and advises from senior CPs and experienced programmers. I am interested in programming and security(as in hacking). I am a novice in C++,C#,VB.NET. I learnt Penetration testing and hacking for becoming a security professional.
But my problem now is I don't know which field to choose. 1)Developer or 2)Security Professional.
1)If I am going to be a developer what kind of applications I want to develop
a)Software Applications
b)Web Developing
c)Game Developing
As you can see each field is different from each other. I really love games and want to go for game programming but I'm not really good with equations and complex calculations. But I can learn any programming language/framework and its features.
2)As a security professional, There are lot of Job titles. I think its basically Penetration testing, Administration and Analyst. I am greatly inspired by the whole hacking thing. But not a lot of startup positions are available as a hacker(White-hat).
So I am really confused here. So this is my career stating point(Fresher). So I would like your suggestions and insights on this. Because I can start shaping myself for the path I choose now. Thanks in advance friends
If this is in the wrong section, Please help to move it and I am sorry if my English is bad.
|
|
|
|
|
It helps to have experience writing software to really understand security. Once you've written it, you'll have a better understanding of how to hack it.
Software dev skills are definatly more transferable and what you chose to start with is not what you have to pursue for the rest of your years so you don't need to put so much pressure on the decision you make now. Things change and so will you
Good luck
|
|
|
|
|
Nobody is interested in security until it's too late to do anything about it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
-----
You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
-----
When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
|
|
|
|
|
When you are just starting out (I wish people would stop using the word 'fresher'  ), you should not think about specializing in a particular field. If you like to develop software, become a developer and stay current on security related issues, getting as much experience in the field as possible, then after a couple of years you can start specializing.
The thing is, there are not that many companies that have dedicated software security experts on staff, so if that is all you know, it could be difficult for you to find a job. Once you have experience (no serious company is going to hire an inexperienced developer as a security expert), you could find yourself in very high demand as a contractor.
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
|
|
|
|
|
Some Indianspeak...
"fresher" == college freshman (i.e. "novice")
"fundas" == fundamentals (i.e. fundamental knowledge of a scientific topic)
E.g: "For a fresher, your fundas are pretty damn good."
/ravi
|
|
|
|
|
Yeah, I have figured out what the term means, I just really hate it.
Quote: "For a fresher, your fundas are pretty damn good."
So, the IndianTextSpeak version is something like "4 a frshr, ur fndz rock" 
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
|
|
|
|
|
You racist European! Indians would say, "4 a frshr, fnds r dmn gd"
|
|
|
|
|
But it seems to be ok for Aussies, Brits and Kiwis to have their own words in the English language....
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread
|
|
|
|
|
Don't worry, I am sure there are plenty of their words I hate as well .
On a serious note, please don't take this as an attack on Indians - I did not know the OP was Indian and I did not know that term is specifically used by Indians.
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
|
|
|
|
|
SoMad wrote: Don't worry, I am sure there are plenty of their words I hate as well
Touche! 
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread
|
|
|
|
|
Ravi Bhavnani wrote: "fresher" == college freshman (i.e. "novice")
Are you sure? I always assumed what people meant is that they are "fresh" out of college (usually an under-grad / bachelor's) and have zero experience professionally.
|
|
|
|
|
Yes, I'm sure. In the 70s, it was a given that all IIT freshers (freshmen) were ragged (hazed).
/ravi
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
