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Nah, I'm too lazy.
I never see anything through.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Quote: I don't know why.
Really? I thought it was obvious.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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chriselst wrote: At the end of the night I was stood opposite the entrance to the club, trying to recognise the correct girls, next to a pedestrian crossing.
Again, context is all.
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chriselst wrote: I had to do the driving of young girls through a Forest thing again last night.
I think I have missed the context post : Why do you have to do that ?
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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chriselst wrote: Presumably it had been hit by a car and they were waiting for the
vet.
A number of years back, my younger brother and his friend were riding up the road on a horse. A dump truck drove by, the horse was spooked and kicked out. The hoof caught on the truck and was almost ripped off.
The driver was in no way at fault or even suspected of being at fault.
The police were called and a determination was made that the horse would not survive the injury and would need to be put down. I have no issue with what transpired up to this point.
The incident happened in front of a friend-of-the-family and he offered to use a rifle to simply put the horse out of it's misery. The police officer said, "If you do, I will have to charge you with cruelty to an animal."
Instead, the 'humane' treatment was to load the horse in a trailer, drive five miles up the road to where the owner lived, unload the horse, make it walk to the barn and then have the vet give the horse a needle to put it down.
Yes, much more humane....
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Oh the great american laws!
Around here, Cops are allowed to shoot an animal as soon as they (in obvious cases) or the Ranger decide that the animal won't survive anyways. They use this right especially in accident where a wild animal is involved - If the animal is still there when the Cops arrive it is pretty much clear that it won't survive and they give it a shot to the head.
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
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Marco Bertschi wrote: Oh the great american laws!
This is when I lived in Canada, so it wasn't an American law, it was an Ontario law.
My in-laws live in New York state and my brother-in-law hit a deer. The officer that arrived on the scene did put it down.
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I was a bit too quick with my prejudice 
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
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Practically, they would have shot the cop first, and then the horse.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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The police officer didn't write the law; he is just told to enforce it.
Start with the politicians that wrote it in the first place...
Shooting the police officer is like shooting mail delivery people; just because they are the bearers of bad news doesn't make them responsible for it.
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Wow, seems I forgot my sarcasm marquee again. 
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Marco Bertschi wrote: If the animal is still there when the Cops arrive it is pretty much clear that it won't survive and they give it a shot to the head
The cook it back at the station.
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Cheap Rehschnitzel, what do you want more?
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
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Driving to work by a circuitous route last year because of a motorway accident I came across a large stag that had been hit by a big BMW - terminal for both, though the driver appeared to be OK.
I'm presuming it came from the herd at Tatton Park[^] - he was a big bugger!
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This was Cannock Chase, Stan Colleymore's favourite dogging ground.
Collisions between deer and car are quite common. It rarely leaves either in a very good state, I know a few who have lost cars in there and a couple who have ended up in hospital after hitting one.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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After reading so much about it, I decided to give a try to TypeScript. I needed to write a large single page webapp, so instead of writing it in C# and compiling to JavaScript (with the Saltarelle compiler), I opted to give a try to TypeScript. After all, everybody was describing an experience similar to C# or Java, so I thought, why not?
I struggled one day converting an existing C# application making it work in Typescript. At the end of the day I just gave up, realizing it's not what I was looking for (that is, a language that hides all the JavaScript annoyances).
What made me renounce:
- Intellisense sometimes slows down the Visual Studio editor, some other times stops working completely
- Syntax highlight is very basic, e.g. there is no special color for type names, or other semantic elements
- I really hate the ": type" syntax, it made me remember of old pascal days. You can get used to it, but you keep asking WHY??
- Autocompletion works only with the tab or enter key (and not with other symbols like (,= as in C#)
- class implementation lacks all the important features: operator overloads, extension methods and all the rest
- I found that comparing two equal "Date" variables with "==" (and not "===") results in false! Ok, it's due to JavaScript but that's horrible.
- Sometimes the compiler exits with an error without telling you what the error is, just "tsc.exe exit code 1".
- When generating a single global .js file, the compiler doesn't handle class inheritance (what class comes first), so you have to stick with multiple file only.
- Within a class, you have always to refer to "this", it's not optional like in C#. Sometimes it's annoying.
- Found myself often going to CodePlex and discovering it's a known issue
Of course there are good points too:
- debug directly within Visual Studio (break points and all the rest)
- has import types for many javascript libraries (DefinitelyTyped)
- Compared to C#, the dynamic syntax is much nicer for objects (no "new" keyword) and arrays
- I like how interfaces are handled and also the "optional" members (though I dislike the "name?" syntax)
Overall, I would strongly suggest TypeScript only to existing JavaScript users. Developers coming from the Java/C# world are more likely to be disappointed, for them the "Dart" language is more appropriate (but sadly there is no Visual Studio plugin yet).
If you have tried TypeScript, what was your experience?
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Thanks for sharing. I am no TypeScript user, but it is great to have such kind of posts back in the Lounge.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Thanks for taking the time to provide a great summary of your experience.
I have not tried TypeScript for some of the reasons you mention -- I am a C# dev and have been working with JavaScript (jQuery and now Angular) for the past 2 years or so. About 2 months ago I went out to the typescript site and checked it out and couldn't find enough reason, just from reading the docs to learn yet another syntax and compiler operation.
Maybe if you've never even touched JavaScript, but then you'd probably still be lost.
Thanks again.
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Talking of C# and AngularJS, an alternative is to cross-compile C# to JavaScript (with compilers like Saltarelle). I have some projects written this way, but it's not an optimal solution because:
- you need a C# import library for Angular (that I've written myself but it's hard to cover all the package)
- Angular itself is very JavaScript oriented, with lot of hacks and tricks, doesn't fit well with C#
- At this point there is no Visual Studio integrated debugging for C#, you can only debug compiled JS code
- working with json and js in general, in C# you find yourself fighting with types, doing lot of conversions and things like that. The dynamic keyword helps but not much.
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"Toms Cruise, Selleck and Courtney? I'll pass!"(2,6)
Nice!
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No thanks or maybe not hanks.
One day I aspire to having a signature.
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Very Good, and very quick!
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Not quite so busy today
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